Subtlety Rogue PvP Guide for Cataclysm Classic

Last updated on Jun 03, 2024 at 00:00 by Sellin

Welcome to our PvP SubtletySubtlety Rogue guide for Cataclysm. Here you will learn all you need to know to properly play Subtlety Rogue in PvP scenarios.

1.

Subtlety Rogue PvP Overview

SubtletySubtlety Rogue is the master of control in PvP thanks to countless tools they have to interrupt, stun and generally disrupt their enemies like Kidney Shot Icon Kidney Shot, Blind Icon Blind, Shadowstep Icon Shadowstep. Subtlety Rogues also deal incredibly high burst damage especially with their Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance ability active.

2.

Strengths and Weaknesses

V Strengths
  • +Incredibly high burst damage with Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance.
  • +Very powerful defensive cooldowns like Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows and Vanish Icon Vanish.
  • +Tons of crowd controlling abilities like Blind Icon Blind, Kidney Shot Icon Kidney Shot and Gouge Icon Gouge.
  • +Pairs great with almost any other class but especially ranged DPS.
X Weaknesses
  • -Struggles when being targeted once cooldowns have been expended.
  • -Heavily reliant on cooldowns to deal damage.
  • -Limited ability to self-sustain.
3.

Talent Build and Glyphs

3.1.

Prime Glyphs

  • Glyph of Hemorrhage Icon Glyph of Hemorrhage — Adds a bleed component to our Hemorrhage Icon Hemorrhage ability, greatly increasing our damage dealt over the course of any extended PvP encounter. This also scales incredibly with our Sanguinary Vein Icon Sanguinary Vein talent.
  • Glyph of Backstab Icon Glyph of Backstab — Causes our Backstab Icon Backstab critical strikes to return 5 energy. Backstab will be our primary form of dealing damage when you are able to get behind the target both to deal max DPS but also apply Waylay Icon Waylay.
  • Glyph of Shadow Dance Icon Glyph of Shadow Dance — Increases the duration of our Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance ability by 2 seconds allowing us to use an additional ability or two each time we use our Shadow Dance cooldown.
3.2.

Major Glyphs

  • Glyph of Preparation Icon Glyph of Preparation — Causes our Preparation Icon Preparation ability to now also refresh our Kick Icon Kick, Dismantle Icon Dismantle and Smoke Bomb Icon Smoke Bomb. This greatly increases the potency of our Preparation cooldown and allows us to make some great reactive plays by allowing us access to the ability to interrupt, disarm and completely disrupt spell casting on a specific area on moments notice.
  • Glyph of Blind Icon Glyph of Blind — Causes our Blind Icon Blind ability to instantly remove all damage-over-time effects from the target allowing us to easily crowd control a target with Blind that would have otherwise instantly broken it due to the damage-over-time effects.
  • Glyph of Garrote Icon Glyph of Garrote — Increases the duration of the silencing portion of our Garrote Icon Garrote ability by 1.5 seconds.
3.3.

Minor Glyphs

  • Glyph of Poisons Icon Glyph of Poisons — Reduces the cast time of applying Poisons to your weapons.
  • Glyph of Distract Icon Glyph of Distract — Increases the range of your Distract Icon Distract ability by 5 yards.
  • Glyph of Blurred Speed Icon Glyph of Blurred Speed — Causes your Sprint Icon Sprint ability to allow you to walk on water.
4.

Rotation and Playstyle

Make sure to check out our Spells Summary Page first. Having a good understanding of not only what your abilities do but how to optimally use them can often times be the difference between winning or losing in PvP. PvP will require you to constantly change your priorities from dealing damage, to surviving or having to peel to keep one of your teammates alive so knowing how to best use your spells will give you the best chance at victory!

  1. Backstab Icon Backstab — Acts as our primary source of dealing damage when you are able to get behind your target.
  2. Hemorrhage Icon Hemorrhage — Acts as our primary source of dealing damage when you are not able to get behind the target though it is important to always keep the Glyph of Hemorrhage Icon Glyph of Hemorrhage effect active to take advantage of Sanguinary Vein Icon Sanguinary Vein.
  3. Gouge Icon Gouge —Instantly incapacitates your target but can only be used on a target you are currently in-front of. Any damage will break this incapacitating effect.
  4. Kick Icon Kick — Is an instant, melee ranged interrupt. It is important to note that this ability does cost a small amount of energy so keep that in mind when trying to interrupt. While it does require melee range you can easily pair it with an ability like Shadowstep Icon Shadowstep to be able to interrupt further away targets.
  5. Kidney Shot Icon Kidney Shot — Is an instant cast stun that's duration scales with the amount of Combo Points spent.
  6. Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate — Acts as our primary spender of Combo Points to deal damage. This is ideally used with five combo points but sometimes a lesser amount will get the job done and finish your target.
  7. Recuperate Icon Recuperate — Is a heal-over-time effect that allows you to convert Combo Points to healing. This ability is incredibly effective in PvP as you are almost always taking at least a slight amount of damage so the ability to self-sustain as a Rogue is a great bonus. We also benefit from Energetic Recovery Icon Energetic Recovery as Subtlety so try to keep this active as often as possible.
  8. Slice and Dice Icon Slice and Dice — Greatly increases your attack speed when active, the duration of this buff scales with the amount of Combo Points spent to apply it. While not our primary focus this is an easy way to spend Combo Points when you are planning on switching targets and you already have Recuperate Icon Recuperate up and Redirect Icon Redirect is on cooldown.
  9. Redirect Icon Redirect — Instantly transfers all of your Combo Points onto your current target, allowing for much easier target swapping.
5.

Stealth Abilities

SubtletySubtlety Rogue has a number of tools it can use from Stealth Icon Stealth allowing it an unfair advantage on its victims. Understanding what each ability does and how to properly use it will help you greatly in both starting a PvP encounter and while Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance is active.

  • Garrote Icon Garrote — Deals a considerable amount of Physical damage over its duration and also silences your target for 3 seconds thanks to the Glyph of Garrote Icon Glyph of Garrote. It is also an easy way to activate Sanguinary Vein Icon Sanguinary Vein.
  • Ambush Icon Ambush — will act as your primary out of Stealth Icon Stealth ability as Subtlety. Casting Ambush Icon Ambush will both activate the Find Weakness Icon Find Weakness and Waylay Icon Waylay on your target allowing you a massive advantage.
  • Sap Icon Sap — is a short incapacitate that can only be used on players that are not in combat. Any damage will immediately break this effect.
  • Cheap Shot Icon Cheap Shot — stuns the target for 4 seconds.
6.

Cooldowns

SubtletySubtlety Rogue seem to have an answer to almost any situation so its important to understand how each cooldown works and more importantly when to use it.

  • Combat Readiness Icon Combat Readiness — Reduces incoming damage by 10% stacking up to five times leading to a total of 50% reduced damage. Combat Insight Icon Combat Insight stacks are gained by taking melee or ranged physical attacks so while this is an incredibly powerful defensive cooldown, you need to make sure you are being focused in order for this cooldown to be effective.
  • Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows — instantly removes all harmful magic effects and grants immunity to all magic damage and effects for five seconds. While this ability will typically be used to survive you can also use it proactively to ignore an enemies otherwise effective crowd control like a mage trying to cast Polymorph Icon Polymorph.
  • Smoke Bomb Icon Smoke Bomb — summons a eight yard radius cloud of smoke that prevents enemies attacks from coming into or leaving the shrouded area. This is an incredible ability in PvP as it completely neutralizes threats from outside of the bomb and also stops targets inside of it from being healed. This can be used to either avoid incoming spells or to kill an enemy that would otherwise able to be healed through your damage.
  • Tricks of the Trade Icon Tricks of the Trade — Increases your targets damage by 15% for its duration. This ability is a great way to boost the damage dealt by an ally especially when they have DPS cooldowns active.
  • Vanish Icon Vanish — instantly sends the Rogue back into stealth allowing for the usage of Stealth Icon Stealth-only abilities. This can be used to either avoid incoming damage and get yourself away from a dangerous situation or to head back into Stealth Icon Stealth to use one of your more potent abilities like Ambush Icon Ambush.
  • Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance — allows you to cast Stealth Icon Stealth abilities while out of Stealth. This ability has great potential both offensively and defensively. When on the offense this allows you to cast tons of Ambush Icon Ambushs allowing you to deal maximum DPS. If you need to peel in an emergency it can allow you to spam Cheap Shot Icon Cheap Shot on multiple targets greatly reducing your enemies ability to deal damage.
  • Shadowstep Icon Shadowstep — instantly teleports you behind your current target and increases the damage of your next Garrote Icon Garrote or Ambush Icon Ambush by 30%. This ability is best paired with Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance or Vanish Icon Vanish in order to benefit from the increased 30% damage on your Ambush Icon Ambush.
  • Preparation Icon Preparation — instantly resets a number of your cooldowns but most importantly your Vanish Icon Vanish and Smoke Bomb Icon Smoke Bomb cool downs.
  • Evasion Icon Evasion — increases the Rogue's dodge rating by 50% and reduces the chance to be hit by ranged attacks by 25%. This is a great tool should you find yourself with being targeted by an enemy dealing physical damage. This is especially useful against other Rogues to avoid being Kidney Shot Icon Kidney Shot.
  • Dismantle Icon Dismantle — disarms the enemy for ten seconds.
7.

Poisons

RogueRogue is able to augment their weapons with poisons that allow you to have a much easier time maintaining uptime on your target as well as dealing damage, reducing their incoming healing or even slowing cast speed. As Subtlety in PvP you will typically want to maintain Wound Poison Icon Wound Poison on your main-hand, Crippling Poison Icon Crippling Poison on your off-hand and Mind-Numbing Poison Icon Mind-Numbing Poison or Crippling Poison Icon Crippling Poison on your thrown weapon depending on your personal preference.

  • Deadly Poison Icon Deadly Poison — is a stacking poison that deals more Nature damage with each stack. Even with Glyph of Blind Icon Glyph of Blind we will not really be using this in PvP.
  • Instant Poison Icon Instant Poison — causes your attacks to deal additional Nature damage.
  • Wound Poison Icon Wound Poison — reduces the healing the target is able to receive and deals a Nature damage. This is our default main-hand poison as Subtlety in PvP.
  • Crippling Poison Icon Crippling Poison — slows the target, this will act as our primary off-hand posion as Subtlety in PvP.
  • Mind-Numbing Poison Icon Mind-Numbing Poison — increases the cast speed of the target lessening the amount of casts the target would otherwise be able to cast.
8.

Best Professions

While trying to get the most out of your SubtletySubtlety Rogue in Cataclysm PvP, these are the professions we recommend:

  1. Blacksmithing Icon Blacksmithing — Gives you access to two additional gem sockets in your Gloves and Writs allowing you to add Agility or Resilience depending on if you feel like you need to become tankier or you need to deal more damage.
  2. Engineering Icon Engineering — allows you access to the Engineering Helmet Agile Bio-Optic Killshades Icon Agile Bio-Optic Killshades which can be socketed with Cogwheels increasing your Resilience and another secondary stat of your choosing by 208 as well as Synapse Springs Icon Synapse Springs which pairs incredibly with your Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance cooldown.
9.

Best in Slot

The list linked below includes the best possible gear setup for an Rogue in PvP.

10.

Arena Teams and Compositions

SubtletySubtlety Rogue is an incredibly versatile class that can pair with almost any other classes in the game but especially with ranged damage dealers like Mages or Warlocks. Highlighted below are some of the strongest arena comps in the game to help you decide what best to pair with your Rogue.