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Step 1: Get Tradeskill Master Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit
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Well, you should use MS on CD no matter how many stacks of FR you have, not just at 3. You should prioritize FR over Slam, so don't just use it with Slam. I only use both when I have like +30 Rage. You should also use CS on resets to get the Shattered Defenses-buff for MS. Having 3 stacks of FR, MS off cd, and a newly applied CS, before Battle Cry comes off cd can also be a huge help. Popping Batte Cry and then just spamming Slam isn't gonna do much for you, lol.
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And that CS cd reduction, of course. Forgot that one ^^ But again, that is only 2 changes in almost a month. Still seems odd that the information still should change so much, from day to day. It seems some sources are pretty unreliable at this point. And by some, I actually mean most. Why is this though? Surely, if MS with 3x FR stacks still needs to be cast doing Battle Cry at all health levels, then wouldn't it automatically also follow that you should cast FR, even pre 20% HP, to buff it? Also, shouldn't you always spam the f*** out of FR doing Battle Cry no matter what? Since
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Thank you very much for your answer. And yes, not a fan of Noxxic either, but I'm just trying to look at as many sources as possible to try and figure out what is going on, lol. But your answer makes sense, although I didn't realize there were happening that many changes to the Warrior. As far as I know, there's only been one real change, with the FR nerf?
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Could you update the macros, in the guides possibly? Some of them are still using abilites from WoD. And if this macro is "what you want to use", then shouldn't it be in there?
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I disagree. Every site, besides SimulationCraft, tells me to get Mastery. Sims I run with my char in SimulationCraft tells me to get Haste > Mastery, which makes no sense. Why? Because if I look at the DPS rankings for 840 gear (870 artifact) from SimluationCraft's own site, the Warrior is completely stacked out on Mastery all the way. http://www.simulationcraft.org/reports/Raid_T19P.html In other words, the stats he gets from his gear is: 12,6k Mastery >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2k Haste > 2k Vers > 1k Crit. I don't
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Do you have a source for this? I'm sorry, but this is really starting to bug me now: I keep up to date with Icy-Veins, AskMrRobot, WoWHead, MMO-Champion, SimulationCraft, aaaaaand Noxxic, and I have NEVER heard that priority before. What source tells you to only Execute at full rage doing Shattered Defenses? Why is there so much conflicting information?! Who is correct? How do I know who is correct? What is going on?!
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Thanks for the answers, guys <3
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I would like this answered as well. I'm really confused: Icy-Veins: Mastery > Vers > Haste (https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/arms-warrior-pve-dps-stat-priority) WoWHead: Mastery > Vers > Haste (http://www.wowhead.com/guides/classes/warrior/arms/gear) SimulationCraft: Haste > Mastery > Vers (http://imgur.com/a/4Mi5H) Noxxic: Haste > Mastery > Vers (http://www.noxxic.com/wow/pve/warrior/arms/stat-priority/) The only thing everyone agrees on, is how crit is shit for us, lol.
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I play with Focused Rage as well, but I generally do about 250k DPS ST, without BL. But whether you believe it or not, should be irrelevant. What does the math say? Have you run any simulations? What's more is that, as you said yourself, that was pre-nerf. On top of that, you should be on top:
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A little update: I ran my Arms Warrior through SimulationCraft, with the ingame addon (including Artifact weapons), and here are the results I got: 1. Haste - 1.27 2. Strength - 1 3. Mastery - 0.95 4. Versatility - 0.7 5. Crit - 0.5 I'm quite surprised that Haste is so much better than Mastery, since Mastery seem to be absolutely king according to Icy-Veins. I've been going for Mastery for a week or so, and now have 845 ilvl, with 6977 Mastery and 4814 Haste. How come the stats from Icy-Veins are so much different? I know the 7k vs 5
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Okay. Makes sense. Thanks! And yes, I am using the OP-build :)
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But why not let it sit there? I know it has a limited window, but we're talking about delaying it by about 1,5 sec for MS. As far as I can see MS has higher avg hits (Despite it having lower crit chance), and it does way more overall dmg because of all the resets, even when OP is prioritized over it. Am I missing something?
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What you say does make sense, but that doesn't follow the somewhat simplistic guidelines that Icy-Veins has now, which says CS > everything else, no matter what. It also says OP > MS, which I also have trouble finding the logic behind. I would think there would have to be a lot of but's and if's in the rotation, with Shattered Defenses, MS resets, and rage reservation for MS (aka no slam/ww spamming until oom).
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I can see though, that on the second round MS' avg is 251k and OP's avg is 257k. Interesting how it's still performing so poorly.
