Mageisty

excellent. thank you both for the information. I will update my BoH trink on Tuesday ( i used all my valor this week to update Cha Ye and some other gear). Wish I had read Oltier's other post before I did that... /cry Oh well, there's no more PVE valor gear I need anyway so live and learn. Hopefully, I'll get the 522 version of BoH or Wushoo next week.

apologies if I posted in the wrong thread.

I've not had any response to my World of Logs guild request so I've just created my own 'phantom' guild and will upload the logs of my next run. Until then, I'm using Living Bomb spec. I have a question about the trinkets in my inventory and which is best for DoT spec'd mage and why Ask Mr. Robot is giving me an unexpected Best In Bag recommentdation. I have : LFR Wushoolay's Final Choice (iLvl 510) LFR Cha Ye's Essence of Brilliance (iLvl 510) LFR Breath of the Hydra (iLvl 502) LFR Unerring Vision of Lei Shen (iLvl 502) Volatile Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assualt (iLvl 526) Ask Mr Robo

I haven't dropped this. I'm just waiting for approval to post logs for guild runs. In world of logs, you have to ask for approval by 'joining the guild' in world of logs dialogue window. Since then, I've tried all 3 bombs, in LFR's and in ToT normal. Call me crazy but my overall DPS 'seems' higher with Frost Bomb + invocation talent. I know.. I'm just a stats noob and what do I know ? I realize this. just communicating what my senses are telling me. I realize the logs will tell the truth. ( long time Unix admin here ) More to come.

thanks for the advice. I had already spec'd in Invocation and Nether Tempest and tried a MV LFR to work out the rotations. I'll definitely need something like weak auras as keeping track of DoTs is a hassle. Frost bomb was easy in comparison: cast on 1 target and wait for it to pop. It's interesting you recommend LB over NT. In reading the tool tips for bot in my talents window NT deal 50% of 104,672 dmg to a random target within 10 yards with no limit specified on the # of targets you can cast while LB deals 124,500 dmg to target over 12 secs and 12,450 dmg to ALL enemies in a 10 yard rad

Edited original post to include armory. It seems invocation talent might be better than Incanters Ward ? I'm pretty good and keeping IW up when I know i'll take dmg but I don't alway take DMG... So I may be losing out there. I don't have any logs as I've never done it yet but I will now. My next raid is on reset day this week (tomorrow). I basically followed the Ask Mr. Robot recommendation. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/ysera/Mageisty/advanced

I have experienced some frost mages using NT and thought nothing of it until a mage 10+ ilvls lower than me did more damage. I did more DPS but couldn't figure out why their dmg was higher until I looked at recount and saw the highest dmg spell used by this mage was nether tempest. The fight was Maegera in ToT which involves ranged dps hanging back at the limit of our range except during rampage when we all stack near the head being dps'ed. This got me thinking : Should I make the change to NT from FB ? Why should I live with higher DPS but lower DMG? It doesn't make sense. DPS is nice but

Zemma, perhaps you have not found the in-game Ticket submission system... Or the Forums on the Blizzard website.... Or the clue that maybe you just don't have to play both PVP and PVE.... Or the other clue that maybe you just shouldn't be playing...

I tried out the robot recommended combo of Cha-Ye and Wushoolay and found the effect uninspiring when compared to that of Volatile+Wushoolay.

I'm a PVE Frost Mage. Using AskMrRobot to find upgrades, it lists the LFR (iLvl 502) verson of Cha-Ye's Essence of Brilliance http://www.wowhead.com/item=95772 as an upgrade from the (iLvl 502) LFR Woosholay's Final Choice and Volatile Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault (iLvl 522). This is somewhat puzzling. In fact, if I do a find best in bag query it recommends Cha-Ye and Woosholay trinkets. Being that the stat preference, in order, is Int > hit (to cap) > Haste > Crit, I don't understand how the crit on Cha-Ye is preferred over the Int on the Volatile Talisman. http://us.battle.

Your guild sounds pretty ruthless. After joining they make you fight for a spot in raids ? Gladiatorial man..... Do they at least help you get geared or are you on your own with that as well ?

Another neat little trick is to use your cd's at the right time. I see mages popping their orbs right off the bat when It's better to get 3 stacks of the frost bolt effect up first. Also, and keep this one secret, when you do pop your IV (in combo with your frost fire bolt proc'd by Frost Bomb in concert with your alter time) after popping a Jade pot because it boosts your DPS tremendously. Keep that a secret, I don't want that getting out there. I also see that frost mages spec'd with Nether Tempest seem to out dps those with Frost bomb. well at least on 1 occasion / boss fight. and the m

After reading the guides, I have one question with does not seem to have a firm answer. After being hit capped, as a frost mage, what level do you aim for in : -Haste -Crit -Mastery Is there a % to gear for or is it 'as much haste till you hit the GC' and then as much crit up to 28% (raid) and then ?? mastery ? 28% crit seems 'difficult' to attain and maintain hit and hast focus. http://us.battle.net...geisty/advanced

I hadn't considered the other changes. So chance to root against an elite mob 91+ is obviously less than against lvl 90 non-elites. There still doesn't appear to be any way to increase the chance to root in a boss fight..... which brings us back to the other changes. Ok. I'm done.

I did a few raids after the realms came back up yesterday following the 5.2 patch. I immediately noticed that, against bosses or even some trash mobs (901 or higher), my elemental's freeze doesn't cause Fingers of Frost to proc. This is almost every time. I don't know about others but having that FoF out side of Frozen Orb was NICE!!! Is just a result of Blizz's seemingly unfaltering nerfing of (frost) mages or do I need more Crit or mastery ? ** I'm hit capped **