mistchi 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2015 So I started playing MW this xpac and I love it we downed heroic imp last week but i feel my heals are really low for 663 ilvl here is the link to one of my logs https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pJR1xryCnZDb6A78#fight=4&type=healing&source=5 and this is my armory http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/silvermoon/Mistchi/simple Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spinandwin 1 Report post Posted January 22, 2015 So far as your healing the main thing really is your RJW is way too low on your healing. You've wasted a lot of chi as well which you can see here https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pJR1xryCnZDb6A78#fight=4&type=resources&spell=112 The breakdown of your spell list looks correct aside from the RJW. I'd put your below average numbers down to poor trinkets & bad itemisation. Your haste and mastery are way too high. Our exact weights are Int 1.85 Spell Power 1.68 Spirit 1.65 (Possibly going to go much higher in 6.1 with mana tea change) Multistrike 1.09 Crit 1.01 Vers 0.91 Haste 0.55 Mastery 0.38 So if you multiply the stats on each item by their stat weight you come up with a weight for each item, highest number wins simple as that. To give one extreme example the legs & head that I have http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/grim-batol/Unique/advanced are better than the mythic head/legs in highmaul and they have 20-25 ilevels less int on them. Haste and mastery is literally that vomit for us. Heres a log from Imp from me https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YPvnFVXACKMH7rfc#type=healing&source=276 Basically what you're pressing is more or less the same, but your numbers are much smaller and my best guess is thats down to your poor itemisation on gear in my opinion (and wasted chi). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistchi 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) I think the main reason i don't cast RJW alot is because huge mana cost. I also had a feeling trinkets would be a small reason. For helm and legs I guess I could run the pvp helm and legs. But idk what I should do about the wasting chi part Edited January 22, 2015 by mistchi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spinandwin 1 Report post Posted January 23, 2015 I think the main reason i don't cast RJW alot is because huge mana cost. I also had a feeling trinkets would be a small reason. For helm and legs I guess I could run the pvp helm and legs. But idk what I should do about the wasting chi part You need to start thinking of 1 chi spent = 1% mana return. And 1 chi wasted as 1% mana lost. Which is what it is @ 0% crit. So if you waste 35 chi that's minimum 35% of a mana pool wasted. But in reality it's slightly more perhaps 40% due to crit. You can stop wasting chi by not capping it simple as that. The only times you'd ever really need to waste chi would be an emergency surging or RJW where the global just cant wait. Aside from that you shouldn't be sitting on 4 chi for more than 1 global cooldown. Also power strikes is the best choice for throughput this tier. Chi Brew = 2 Chi & 1 mana tea (4%) per minute. Each chi is worth 1% mana so thats 6% total mana return per minute. Power strikes = 4 Chi per minute & 4% mana per minute Both give increased mana return with crit. Ascension has a niche value on short fights. If you manage your chi better you'll have the mana pool to maybe get 10 RJW's off on a 10 minute fight like imperator. Aside from that you just really need to improve your itemisation. Some of the PvP gear is great & these BoE's are Bis until BRF Mythic: Everburning Candle, Supple leggings of the savage (@665) & Torias Preserverence. But lots of the other "of the savage gear" is extremely good too. If damage is low. You conserve mana by generating chi slowly. Not by generating it normally and then not spending it. You've got 2 sets of spells essentially and they're at different stages in the mana recycling process we have. Spells that generate chi and cost mana: ReM, Surging, RJW, Expel Harm Spells that cost chi & 0 mana but generate mana tea: Uplift, Enveloping So just be aware that if you're trying to save mana, the 2nd set of spells are not what you slow down on. Capping chi wastes mana. What you maybe need to do is manage you chi generators better. In order of mana efficiency its Expel Harm > ReM > Surging > > > RJW. So if things are chill just soothing and expel harm Mana Consumers/Chi generators -> Chi Consumers/Mana Tea Generators -> Mana Tea. So TL;DR is you're bottlenecking that process which means less output and less mana return. Fistweaving on pull is another great way to build up mana and if you want to know the most mana efficient way to do that you can check a forum post I made here https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/10043-mw-fistweaving-section-could-use-an-update/ The details in the guide on IV aren't very good Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistchi 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2015 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a7ZfBLmJbvA2rx6R#fight=24&type=healing This is an update log we killed imp again took ur advice didnt waste nearly as much chi , i didint get as many RJW in as i wanted to but alot more than previous attempts. TY ALOT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spinandwin 1 Report post Posted January 24, 2015 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a7ZfBLmJbvA2rx6R#fight=24&type=healing This is an update log we killed imp again took ur advice didnt waste nearly as much chi , i didint get as many RJW in as i wanted to but alot more than previous attempts. TY ALOT Np, your healing is looking much nicer there. Can't really fault anything in that log. Get your gear sorted and you should be topping that meter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spinandwin 1 Report post Posted January 24, 2015 Also I saw you got mythic throat ripper gauntlets, sell em and buy everburning candle with the gold :P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarazet 144 Report post Posted February 1, 2015 What is up with that Disc Priest getting 72% of his heals from PW:S? Is that normal now?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brewmonksta 157 Report post Posted February 2, 2015 What is up with that Disc Priest getting 72% of his heals from PW:S? Is that normal now?? Yeah can be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rhalkin 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2015 Haven't played my monk a lot this expansion and now that I am trying to again I am finding conflicting things about what stats I should be looking for. The guide on this Icy-veins doesn't even list spirit as an option while ask mr.robot has it as the 2nd stat behind intell. and now I see you saying it is 3rd behind intell and spell power. How do I know which one to follow? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nalar 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2015 For my 5pence worth, if you can get the 'everblooming frond' item from garrison tavern quests, and you won't need to worry about mana again I have found its so good you can just worry about mana in fights rather than after fights and regenerating whilst out of combat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jadedmists 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2015 Hello guys, I need some help. I have been a mistweaver since Mop, and up until now i have been doing fairly well. I had a few issues in Highmaul, but nothing major. But now in the new raid i am struggling heavily. I know i am still learning some of the mechanics and have died to it. But when i am alive and healing i feel that somethign is off. I am wondering if it's i do not have enough crit/multistrike, or if i am doing something wrong. Here is a log from some normal fights we did. Here is a log from one of our nights. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YVXFzBwAbPNa81vk#type=healing&boss=-2 Also here is an armory link for my toon http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/turalyon/Jadedmists/simple Please be gentle, but could use some help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
