Kaniatron 0 Report post Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) I am new to WOW and have been having challenges with the class I have chosen. I am currently playing an arcane mage, but am having a hard time with getting good dps. As of lately I have been reading through many forums, watching videos, trying to chat with online players, and recently reading Berlinas guide. Although Im not sure if I call it a loss and move on or what, maybe Im just not getting it. Watching others in raids doing 20k DPS makes me so jealous... Ive posted a picture on here of my gear and info and I will list my rotation. http://postimg.org/image/elithc40v/ https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/5712928/latest#boss=0 My toon My general rotation is: Rune of Power Arcane Power Arcane Blast until I get 3 stacks of Arcane Missles Arcane Missles Nether Tempest To Restack Arcane Missles Arcane Orb Arcane Brillance Alter Time Arcane Blast Until Mana is Gone <----Burn Evocation I dont know maybe Im just lost but any help would be awesome.... Kaniatron Edited January 28, 2015 by Kaniatron Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conamus 3 Report post Posted January 28, 2015 Without logs it's really hard to see what all you're doing wrong. Just from looking at what you told us. You cast arcane brilliance during burn phase? which is what i'm assuming is what you told us. Don't use Arcane Power until you have 4 stacks Arcane Charge. Isn't it better to save arcane orb to refresh stacks? Don't wait till you have zero mana to cast evocate. Berlina's guide has a really detailed Conservation phase/Burn phase. Without logs can't help as much though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oltier 471 Report post Posted January 28, 2015 I am new to WOW and have been having challenges with the class I have chosen. I am currently playing an arcane mage, but am having a hard time with getting good dps. As of lately I have been reading through many forums, watching videos, trying to chat with online players, and recently reading Berlinas guide. Although Im not sure if I call it a loss and move on or what, maybe Im just not getting it. Watching others in raids doing 20k DPS makes me so jealous... Ive posted a picture on here of my gear and info and I will list my rotation. http://postimg.org/image/elithc40v/ https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/5712928/latest#boss=0 My toon My general rotation is: Rune of Power Arcane Power Arcane Blast until I get 3 stacks of Arcane Missles Arcane Missles Nether Tempest To Restack Arcane Missles Arcane Orb Arcane Brillance Alter Time Arcane Blast Until Mana is Gone <----Burn Evocation I dont know maybe Im just lost but any help would be awesome.... Kaniatron If you have Alter time in your rotation, then it tells me, that you didn't really pay too much attention to our guide's rotation page. I'd highly suggest you rereading it. Berlinia's guide here, in the forums can also help you. :) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conamus 3 Report post Posted January 28, 2015 I didn't even see the Alter time part... I got thrown off on arcane brillance. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oltier 471 Report post Posted January 28, 2015 Guys okaay! Please, lets try to stick to a bit more friendlier voice! :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chrizesu 10 Report post Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) You might be getting confused by old guides. Alter Time is now purely a damage mitigation talent. You use it before you take large bursts of damage, and I suggest using a macro with it so that healers know to only heal you enough to keep you alive since the damage will revert. You still want to be using missiles during burn phase, and burn phase goes to 50% mana. Also you want Evocation to eat all 4 charges. Here's my primer that I just update to reflect the new supernova changes on PTR: Opening: Arcane Blast until Arcane Charges at 4, Power Crystal + Arcane Power + Trinkets + Presence of Mind, (if 3 AM procs use AM, use PoM AB and then AM again if it procs) supernova->filler spell(PoM AB or AM)->supernova, Arcane Missiles and Arcane Blasts to 50% mana (never lower/just before ok, missiles as they proc, re-target when your PC won't last the travel time of the next cast), Evocation (cancel Evo at 100% mana with nova or blast, I like to Ice Floes Evo just in case of danger), Conserve phase Note: The complexity on Supernova is due to a new change on PTR that makes it so Supernova can't be cast twice in a row. In my current testing I am able to fill with PoM AB, but AM might be a better choice during raid haste buff. Conserve Phase: (priority system, top to bottom) Refresh Rune of Power if less than 20 seconds left/ice floes + place new Rune if relocatingSwitch to Burn Phase if Evocation will be up about when my burn phase will call for it (testing starting burn phase when power crystal comes up)Supernova at Incanter's Flow Max (only if using Incanter's Flow, hold if PC is up before 21 seconds)Arcane Blast to 4 chargesArcane MissilesSupernova if Rune of Power to try and proc missiles (or save it for a double nova when PC is up)Arcane Blast if over 93% manaArcane Barrage Burn Phase:1. Get to 4 charges if not at 4 charges2. Power Crystal + Arcane Power + Trinkets + Presence of MindOn Crystal:i. if 3 AM procs use AM, use PoM AB, and then AM again if it procsii. supernova->filler spell(PoM AB or AM)->supernova, try not to miss AM procsiii. arcane missiles iv. arcane blastAfter Crystal:3. Do conserve rotation without arcane barrage4. Use trinket actives5. Evocation at or before 50% mana, cancel evo at 100% mana with nova or blast, and then go into conserve phase. Note To Self: Try and change this to use only 1 list format. Using 3 different ones causes confusion. Helpful Macos for people bad at pressing buttons like me: #showtooltip Prismatic Crystal /console Sound_EnableSFX 0 /use Shards of Nothing /use Presence of Mind /cast Arcane Power /cast Prismatic Crystal /script UIErrorsFrame:Clear() /console Sound_EnableSFX 1 #showtooltip Cold Snap /cast Cold Snap /stopcasting /cast Presence of Mind #showtooltip Counterspell /stopcasting /cast [@focus,exists][@target] Counterspell #showtooltip Polymorph /stopcasting /cast [@focus,exists][@target] Polymorph Cold Snap button needs pressed twice and is used as another PoM AB during crystal. An alternative to the PC macro is that you can link the following macros to alternate presses of your spells to instead cast your buffs at the first spell you use after placing your PC: (better method) AM: #showtooltip Arcane Missiles /console Sound_EnableSFX 0 /use Shards of Nothing /use Presence of Mind /cast Arcane Power /cast Arcane Missiles /script UIErrorsFrame:Clear() /console Sound_EnableSFX 1 Supernova: #showtooltip Supernova /console Sound_EnableSFX 0 /use Shards of Nothing /use Presence of Mind /cast Arcane Power /cast Supernova /script UIErrorsFrame:Clear() /console Sound_EnableSFX 1 Edited January 29, 2015 by Chrizesu 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites