Doobs 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2015 Title says it all. Its looking like arcane is going to be the best play with the gear item stats. Should I just go ahead and rechat my gear to mastery and make the switch to prepare or stick to frost until more of the mastery pieces start flowing in? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nozome 1 Report post Posted January 29, 2015 Personally I'm playing frost and rolling on gear that has mastery in it . I will do (or try to do) the change to arcane when i have more pieces.Damage wise would be better to stick to frost , but you could change to arcane just to get a little more experience with it.It's your choice :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
causevha 1 Report post Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) I feel like arcane is a specc you will never feel comfortable with unless you are always 1-2 steps ahead. You can't just pop AM whenever it proccs or use arcane barrage if you're about to move. The most difficult thing to master will be mana management/RoP uptime on movement-bosses. Sure, some would say get a different talent on movement-bosses but I feel like it's possible to make RoP worth it if you are some steps ahead of the boss. If you're into that, go for it Edited January 29, 2015 by causevha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chrizesu 10 Report post Posted January 29, 2015 My suggestion is to make arcane your off-spec and practice it in lfr/guild alt runs. Then when you feel comfortable with arcane you can make the full switch to your gear. Some people make the mistake of trying to play flavor of the month when they're not mentally prepared to switch. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pyrogenics 4 Report post Posted January 30, 2015 I am not sure why there is this assumption that arcane will be the go to spec.. based on a lot of what I am reading.. between the buff to incineration (from 5 to 15% crit from all sources), the gear that drops, the tier bonuses, plus upcoming boss mechanics, I am conviced that fire will be spec. Arcane might work on some normal fights.. and 2 or 3 heroic.. fire will simple do more damage, more reliably, and will not suffer from movement like arcane does (and the fact is, movement screws arcane A LOT.. especially if you are not a master of the spec). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oltier 471 Report post Posted January 30, 2015 I am not sure why there is this assumption that arcane will be the go to spec.. based on a lot of what I am reading.. between the buff to incineration (from 5 to 15% crit from all sources), the gear that drops, the tier bonuses, plus upcoming boss mechanics, I am conviced that fire will be spec. Arcane might work on some normal fights.. and 2 or 3 heroic.. fire will simple do more damage, more reliably, and will not suffer from movement like arcane does (and the fact is, movement screws arcane A LOT.. especially if you are not a master of the spec). The incineration increase was to compensate the nerf to Pyroblast!. ^^ There is no "the one to go spec". You go with the one, which is the most appropriate for the current encounter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pyrogenics 4 Report post Posted January 30, 2015 I was speaking in the parlance of hierarchy. while fire won't be the stand alone best spec, I believe fire will be.. over the course of this tier, the consistent power spec. Especially as people aquire tier gear, and BRF heroic items. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oltier 471 Report post Posted January 30, 2015 I was speaking in the parlance of hierarchy. while fire won't be the stand alone best spec, I believe fire will be.. over the course of this tier, the consistent power spec. Especially as people aquire tier gear, and BRF heroic items. And then, Blizzard will nerf it back, to keep it on the same level as the other 2 specs. :) Just as it has been happening in the last few expansions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chrizesu 10 Report post Posted January 30, 2015 Arcane scales harder in low movement fights and some medium movement fights, but the three specs are close enough that what is best comes down to itemization and player skill. Even with the sparser frost itemization I expect frost mains to stay frost, and arcane mages to qq about how much movement is in BRF. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pyrogenics 4 Report post Posted January 30, 2015 I expect frost mains to stay frost, and arcane mages to qq about how much movement is in BRF. I chuckled at this. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chrizesu 10 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 I'm currently not having issues with movement in heroic BFR as arcane. For all of the fights I have done I would rank mythic twins harder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blockflame 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 I would guess that since the majority of the fights in BRF have adds/multiple targets, Fire or Frost will probably be at the top of the logs. This is not to say that Arcane won't be competitive, single target, but I think multiple targets will cause it to be lower in total damage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chrizesu 10 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 I would guess that since the majority of the fights in BRF have adds/multiple targets, Fire or Frost will probably be at the top of the logs. This is not to say that Arcane won't be competitive, single target, but I think multiple targets will cause it to be lower in total damage. Depends on the number of targets. Arcane has amazing cleave on 2 or 3 target fights and frost is the same way. Fire goes way ahead if there's packs of 5 or more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLTeo 29 Report post Posted February 5, 2015 I think if you go full mastery you can pretty much do half the fights as arcane and the other half as fire. Gruul, Oregoreger, Flamebender, Kromog and Blackhand are all good for arcane from the looks of it, while Blast Furnace, Hans'gar and Franzok, Darmac, Thogar and Iron Maidens should be good fire encounters. In full multistrike/haste gear i absolutely wrecked meters last night as fire on Blast Furnace, it was awesome :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites