Redfella's Unholy Necroticblight WeakAuras

[Redfella 51]

Just tried it and it works perfectly

Only issue I found is that UB shows out of combat but thats just 1 checkbox ^^

 

That's a preference I have

 

"here is a downtime in this, in the last 10 sec of NP"

 

I just tested and every Unholy and Death rune gives me a Scourge Strike icon.

 

When UB was up and you had runes to spend, SS would be missing. Fixed and will update soon.

Edited February 4, 2015 by Redfella

[Impurex 5]

The pastebin in the comment worked perfectly for me, same as the one before.

 

Thanks for a great rotation helper! Gotta get some practise in before I switch from 2h frost in 6.1 :) 

[Redfella 51]

4.2.2015 - 1.0 release candidate 1
- Fixed an import bug causing the WA to become unusable

- Fixed Scourge Strike not appearing when UB was available, you had runes to use and 15 stack NP was still ticking

- Fixed Plague Strike not appearing if no NP on target and Outbreak down (1xPS+UB = fastest 15 Stack build without Outbreak available)

- Coloured Scourge Strike icon texts green/yellow depending on if we are saving one Death/Unholy rune for Soul Reaper or spamming freely

 

These fixes are not included in the pastebin few posts above, if you value seeing a SS icon when UB is up and you have runes to spend, please update.

[Redfella 51]

The pastebin in the comment worked perfectly for me, same as the one before.

 

Thanks for a great rotation helper! Gotta get some practise in before I switch from 2h frost in 6.1

Creating this WA has been a good way for me to switch from frost to unholy, not only did I have to really invest in learning the right priorities, hammering on a test dummy felt actually useful in order to thest these strings. :D

[Lusitan 2]

 

4.2.2015 - 1.0 release candidate 1

- Fixed an import bug causing the WA to become unusable

- Fixed Scourge Strike not appearing when UB was available, you had runes to use and 15 stack NP was still ticking

- Fixed Plague Strike not appearing if no NP on target and Outbreak down (1xPS+UB = fastest 15 Stack build without Outbreak available)

- Coloured Scourge Strike icon texts green/yellow depending on if we are saving one Death/Unholy rune for Soul Reaper or spamming freely

 

These fixes are not included in the pastebin few posts above, if you value seeing a SS icon when UB is up and you have runes to spend, please update.

 

 

 

The update fixed all the bugs. so i tested it for about 20 minutes in the dummies, and i want to suggest another tweak.

 

DC when DT > 10 sec should not have higher priority than SS up until 70 or 80 RP, cause SS only gives 10 RP or especially not over FeS 

 

Also i would like to know what is the string i should change the timer to 10 sec or tweak to number to fits my Haste a bit better. maybe add this to main topic for those brave enough to tweak it, the worst that can happen is for us to re-import your normal string again if we fuck up

Edited February 4, 2015 by Lusitan

[Lusitan 2]

The pastebin in the comment worked perfectly for me, same as the one before.

 

Thanks for a great rotation helper! Gotta get some practise in before I switch from 2h frost in 6.1

 

you should not jump boats just yet.

 

UB/NP as Frost 2H is quite good as well, especially now on live, necrobliterate might be favoured by some players, i actually enjoyed it when i tested it. 

 

even if cant extend NP duration, OB still does a weck of alot of damage, and NP does almost the same damage as FF/BP together, not to mention it spread quite far away.

 

so hang in there and dont abandon frost yet :P im sure i wont for now, even tho this necroblight is quite fun 

[Redfella 51]

The update fixed all the bugs. so i tested it for about 20 minutes in the dummies, and i want to suggest another tweak.

 

DC when DT > 10 sec should not have higher priority than SS up until 70 or 80 RP, cause SS only gives 10 RP or especially not over FeS 

 

Also i would like to know what is the string i should change the timer to 10 sec or tweak to number to fits my Haste a bit better. maybe add this to main topic for those brave enough to tweak it, the worst that can happen is for us to re-import your normal string again if we fuck up

It's really not a higher priority even thought the icon is on SS/FeS left side. I just forgot to move it to the right place after fixing the import bug. Feel free to hit the little arrow to move it further down.

 

Instructions for NP duration vs. UB cd tweaking

 

You need to do said tweak to all SS/FeS displays.

 

Having this configured from one icon only is something I really want to do, but I'd need help to create a custom icon that exposes a trigger that can be used in multiple WA displays.

Edited February 4, 2015 by Redfella

[Redfella 51]

you should not jump boats just yet.

 

UB/NP as Frost 2H is quite good as well, especially now on live, necrobliterate might be favoured by some players, i actually enjoyed it when i tested it. 

 

even if cant extend NP duration, OB still does a weck of alot of damage, and NP does almost the same damage as FF/BP together, not to mention it spread quite far away.

 

so hang in there and dont abandon frost yet im sure i wont for now, even tho this necroblight is quite fun 

Necroblight was nerfed on PTR today, from 3.7% ap per stack to 3.2% ap per stack. Even if it goes to live with that, it will still hit a lot harder in 6.1 than it does now (the 37% overall buff to NP damage still exists, just the scaling was toned down).

 

With the percentage of total damage NP will do for especially UH, I feel PL isn't the way to go. Unless Frost get's some buffs so that it scales better from gear, UH will continue to push further. Perhaps Blizz has intended it to be more a rookie/leveling / spec (Due it's more forgiving, more bursty and making mistakes affects your total dps a bit less). Hard to say really. Doesn't seem to make sense.

Edited February 4, 2015 by Redfella

[Fastbrek 1]

Aura is working like a charm now. Congrats for your hard work!

[Lusitan 2]

It's really not a higher priority even thought the icon is on SS/FeS left side. I just forgot to move it to the right place after fixing the import bug. Feel free to hit the little arrow to move it further down.

 

Instructions for NP duration vs. UB cd tweaking

 

You need to do said tweak to all SS/FeS displays.

 

Having this configured from one icon only is something I really want to do, but I'd need help to create a custom icon that exposes a trigger that can be used in multiple WA displays.

 

holy crap thats alot of them

 

i thinking it was only one.

 

bug -  HP pot usage shows on string name < 25% but the trigger is actually at 35%

Edited February 4, 2015 by Lusitan

[Impurex 5]

The update fixed all the bugs. so i tested it for about 20 minutes in the dummies, and i want to suggest another tweak.

 

DC when DT > 10 sec should not have higher priority than SS up until 70 or 80 RP, cause SS only gives 10 RP or especially not over FeS 

 

I get the same feeling, after running a highmaul pug today I noticed I had alot of instances where DT would fall off and me only having roughly 30-60 energy. I believe the optimal way to leave DT is with 70+ energy to get it up again asap. 

 

The energy counter on death coil does account for this though, I just went for not using DC untill I felt I had a risk of capping. Could be tweaked in the WA though to not show DC at all when it shouldn't be cast.

 

you should not jump boats just yet.

 

UB/NP as Frost 2H is quite good as well, especially now on live, necrobliterate might be favoured by some players, i actually enjoyed it when i tested it. 

 

even if cant extend NP duration, OB still does a weck of alot of damage, and NP does almost the same damage as FF/BP together, not to mention it spread quite far away.

 

so hang in there and dont abandon frost yet im sure i wont for now, even tho this necroblight is quite fun 

 

Haha I know, me jumping specs is in no way following the flavour of the month. I started with Storms 2h helper to get a feel for the spec, and deleted the helper alltogether when I mastered it well enough (steady 85%+ percentile). Just wanted to get a feel for the necroblight playstyle in case I have to switch later. 

 

Even if the simmable dps results are quite competitive in all specs unholy is looking to be the steadier spec beating frosts necrobliterate in basically any scenario and beating defile specs purely for the never optimal defile uptimes on most bosses with any movement.

 

Aditionally, I just need to keep myself entertained sometimes when I get bored with a spec Frost is turning out quite boresome when you know the inside-out of the spec. Might try necrobliterate as well though, looks to be an entertaining and competitive spec!

Edited February 5, 2015 by Impurex

[Redfella 51]

Ah, so tweak DC before DT soon from 10s to say 15s, so we'd be closer to RP cap when big timmy falls off and we want to DCx5 asap?

And yeah thats a lot of displays, cause its either all triggers or any trigger. Would love to be able to group like "first 3 triggers and 4 or 5 or 6, but WA does not support this directly. As it is, I have to duplicate the base display for all the ifs and elses. :(

Edited February 5, 2015 by Redfella

[Impurex 5]

Ah, so tweak DC before DT soon from 10s to say 15s, so we'd be closer to RP cap when big timmy falls off and we want to DCx5 asap?

And yeah thats a lot of displays, cause its either all triggers or any trigger. Would love to be able to group like "first 3 triggers and 4 or 5 or 6, but WA does not support this directly. As it is, I have to duplicate the base display for all the ifs and elses.

 

I would say tweak DC to:

 

1. use when procced

2. use when DT is not up

3. use when DT is up and energy >70

 

Now you could make it so that:

 

1. same

2. same

3. use when DT is up and >15 seconds and energy >30

4. use when DT is up and <15 seconds and energy >70

 

Might miss something here, just quickly made these priority's up. Should be looking something like that. Even if you don't "need" to pool energy for Timmy there isn't really a reason to spam DC whenever you have energy, wether you aim for 0 energy or 70 energy you use the same amount of DC's during the fight so you get the same runic corruption/BT procs.

 

[EDIT] with the FoS and soul reaper priority's being above DC in any scenario I would say you need something like the second one, might go the third to be above 40 and the fourth above 70

Edited February 5, 2015 by Impurex

[Redfella 51]

I'll switch the treshold While DT is active from 30 to 40 RP, and bump up the "stop" period from 10s to 15s. We might get a "CAP" icon just before timmy falls off, but then you just throw an additional DC out and it's not a problem (it's the RP > 90 rule that still pops up if you are about to cap).

 

You are right that the amount of DC casts stays the same, but weaving in DCs instead of spamming many of them in a succession every now and then results in more SS/FeS due RC lasting 3s and you being able to overwrite your earlier RC with following death coils.

 

I'll also add inverse Runic Corruption protection, so that we don't end up Death Coiling on top of a DC that just procced RC, and potentially losing 1-2s of doubled rune regen if both casts happen to proc RC.

 

The duration rolls on top of the old RC, my mistake.

Edited February 5, 2015 by Redfella

[Lusitan 2]

I'll switch the treshold While DT is active from 30 to 40 RP, and bump up the "stop" period from 10s to 15s. We might get a "CAP" icon just before timmy falls off, but then you just throw an additional DC out and it's not a problem (it's the RP > 90 rule that still pops up if you are about to cap).

 

You are right that the amount of DC casts stays the same, but weaving in DCs instead of spamming many of them in a succession every now and then results in more SS/FeS due RC lasting 3s and you being able to overwrite your earlier RC with following death coils.

 

I'll also add inverse Runic Corruption protection, so that we don't end up Death Coiling on top of a DC that just procced RC, and potentially losing 1-2s of doubled rune regen if both casts happen to proc RC.

 

The duration rolls on top of the old RC, my mistake.

 

Timmy DC polling will be a non-problem with tier set after 45% boss HP, cause SR gives 5 stacks instant, so we will be using DC on downtime.

 

maybe you can add that condition in the future as more and more players get tier set bonus

[Impurex 5]

The duration rolls on top of the old RC, my mistake.

 

I actually did not know that, and have always been carefull to try and spread DC's 3 seconds apart (unless I'm building supertimmy)

 

Learning by teaching, awesome

 

 

Timmy DC polling will be a non-problem with tier set after 45% boss HP, cause SR gives 5 stacks instant, so we will be using DC on downtime.

 

maybe you can add that condition in the future as more and more players get tier set bonus

 

Yeah, and the whole "DT has to be up" mentality will become way more important with tier pieces as well, since he gets a massive damage increase in DT. As of now it isn't really a noticable difference if you take a few casts longer to get DT up.

Edited February 7, 2015 by Impurex

[Tchami 0]

Hey, really appreciate your work here, thanks for everything you've done!

 

I have a small issue with the Rotation Helper string though.  It loads fine and works great, but when I try to play with the positioning the entire string bugs out.

 

Not sure if it's my computer not reading something properly.

 

 

 

[Redfella 51]

Use the X and Y offset in the "Group" tab of the Rotation Helper. The animations play havoc with the WA drag & drop. :)

[Tchami 0]

Thanks for the timely response, solved everything :)

[demonardvark 556]

Crazy stupid good job here. I've been analyzing logs of people using your rotation helper and their dps is great. Near perfect up time on necrotic, good soul reaper usage, and great resource management. 

 

Whenever my 1.2 update comes to my guide, this will be linked as an amazing resource for unholy DKS. Great job :D

[Redfella 51]

Nice, glad to hear it's useful :)

[Lusitan 2]

Crazy stupid good job here. I've been analyzing logs of people using your rotation helper and their dps is great. Near perfect up time on necrotic, good soul reaper usage, and great resource management. 

 

Whenever my 1.2 update comes to my guide, this will be linked as an amazing resource for unholy DKS. Great job

 

Happy Days idd

[Lusitan 2]

Nice, glad to hear it's useful

 

Is this WA the only one you doing for DK's

 

i would love something similar for 2H frost and UH Single target auras

[Redfella 51]

As I consider this WA pretty much finished, I have a bit of extra time on my hands again. I'm most likely going to do something in the same ballpark for Demonology Warlocks next (gotta get him to 100 first). These helpers are just a pastime for me while playing alts (I main a Resto Druid).

 

In any case, until 6.1 lands I'm spending a ton of time clearing 4 garrisons daily + BRF Progress on my main, so time is a bit limited. It's not out of question, but it's not going to happen in the coming weeks at least. If I weren't so damn broke I'd have more time for interesting stuff, but for now it's farm farm farm. :P

Edited February 9, 2015 by Redfella

[Fastbrek 1]

A demo warlock WA would be awesome.

 

Thanks for the DK one. It's amazing!