xFreki 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2015 Hello, since i feel like i am one of the worst Frost DKs ever (played blood in MoP), i decided to sign up and ask you for some help/advice. armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/de/character/gilneas/Lamiqu%C3%A9/simple logs: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/jns2o842zub1cllp/details/20/(second raid brf) http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/dqvj7hfr3wxhp7fn/details/11/(first day brf) http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/4me7p9qrysa0s1pk/details/16/(highmaul, if relevant) Before anyone suggests to play UH: I don`t really like that specc and i don't wish to play it. I hope someone can help me, if any more information is needed let me know Thanks in advance!(and sorry for my bad english) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huggstah 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Necro blight doesn't work within frost due to the fact you need to use most of your runes for keeping the plague up , if you must play frost stick to what it's made for static burst single target If you want to top you will need to go unholy , a lot of other classes have been buffed and to keep up we need to be playing unholy or you need to be playing unholy here are my logs I have 1 fight I play frost on because I find it more enjoyable https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/1128157/latest/#boss=1696 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huggstah 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Look though the logs I have fights I play as frost and When ever I do play it I'm landing ranks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChaiNspliT 5 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Necro blight doesn't work within frost due to the fact you need to use most of your runes for keeping the plague up , if you must play frost stick to what it's made for static burst single target It very well DOES. You obviously never PL your main target, though. You leech from a nearby add, which is always possible in BrF, except for Gruul, Pacman and occasionally Kromog. If you want to top you will need to go unholy , a lot of other classes have been buffed and to keep up we need to be playing unholy or you need to be playing unholy here are my logs I have 1 fight I play frost on because I find it more enjoyable Even though UH may be the better spec, which is undeniable, you can still do good damage with Frost. Especially 1H Frost or with a lot of HB procs with 2H Frost. Look though the logs I have fights I play as frost and When ever I do play it I'm landing ranks Get off this forum, if your feedback on how someones logs were, are like this. You're absolutely no help at all. He specifically said he won't play UH, so keep such ignorant comments for yourself. _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Und jetzt mal richtige hilfe... Deine Talentwahl ist völlig falsch. 1) Nimm statt Unheilige Verseuchung Plague Leech (ganz rechts) und benutz das wann immer möglich nur auf adds, um den boss herum und niemals auf den boss selbst. 2) Nimm Fegefeuer, wenn der raid AMZ nicht brauch. Das ist sowieso die standart Wahl. 3) Ersticken ist absolut wertlos, da es gegen kein einzigen boss oder add, außerhalb von trash, eingesetzt werden kann. Also nimm stattdessen Death's Advance (ganz links). 4) Runenauffrischung ist die schlechteste Wahl. Beginn mit Runic Corruption (ganz rechts) und wenn du irgendwann denkst du bist bereit, dann nimm Blood Tap, welches komplett manuell benutzt werden muss und erst ein DPS increase ist, wenn du es perfekt einsetzt. 5) Richtige Wahl 6) Gorefiends Grasp ist hier am besten, da du die adds alle auf einem Fleck sammeln kannst und Nekrotische Seuche dadurch schneller auf alle adds wandelt. Es geht aber auch ohne, wenn dir das zu umständlich ist. 7) Benutz Nekrotische Seuche NICHT bei Gruul, Erzfresser und Kormog, bis 6.1 da ist. Ansonsten ist es ein hoher DPS verlust. Nimm stattdessen Entweihen. Darüber hinaus ist dein Tempo vieeel zu hoch, das cap liegt bei 1000 Tempo (also etwa 30-40%), danach willst du nur noch auf Mehrfachschlag gehen. Versatilität und Mastery sind die nächst besten stats, aber nicht so wichtig wie Tempo (NUR BIS 1000) und dann Mehrfachschlag > Meisterschaft. Du solltest sofort auf Mehrfachschlag edelsteine wechseln. Und gewöhn dir an deine Logs auf Warcraftlogs.com hochzuladen, dann wird man dir eher helfen. Schließlich zu deinen Glyphen, schau dir dazu einfach mein Zitat an: Suggested Glyphs: Major Glyphs: 1) Glyph of Regenerative Magic. The side effects of this glyph are noticable, they will shorten the CD of AMS (Anti Magic Shell) and generates therefore more Runicpower over time resulting in a DPS increase. Source: http://www.wowdb.com...enerative-magic 2) Glyph of Empowerement. It basically morphes into our second big heal CD, next to Death Pact (which should be taken 100% of the time). Source: http://www.wowdb.com...-of-empowerment 3) Glyph of Outbreak. Only ever usefull, if you're faced against a great number of adds or against trash, before the boss. As of now, there's no use for it, other than Tectus and Imperator. And even then not necessary. You are free to happily ignore it and take the other 3 mentioned Glyphs. Source: http://www.wowdb.com...yph-of-outbreak Minor Glyphs: 1) Glyph of Tranquil Grip. This removes the taunt effect from your death grip and allows you to freely move any adds across the room to eases the process of spreading Necrotic Plague. Must have. Source: http://www.wowdb.com...f-tranquil-grip 2) Glyph of Army of the Dead. This does aswell remove the taunt effect from one of your spells. Army of the Dead, to be exactly. If you're going to use this minor CD, then it's a must have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xFreki 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Danke schonmal! Die Talente und Sockel/VZ sind ja schnell geändert...AMZ musste ich für den Raid skillen, deaths advance eigentlich nie gebraucht. Aber den Rest ändere ich gern. Die Rota selbst ist aber halbwegs ok? Die Logs habe nicht ich hochgeladen, die Raidleitung hat sich für WoL entschieden ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huggstah 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) It very well DOES. You obviously never PL your main target, though. You leech from a nearby add, which is always possible in BrF, except for Gruul, Pacman and occasionally Kromog. Even though UH may be the better spec, which is undeniable, you can still do good damage with Frost. Especially 1H Frost or with a lot of HB procs with 2H Frost. Get off this forum, if your feedback on how someones logs were, are like this. You're absolutely no help at all. He specifically said he won't play UH, so keep such ignorant comments for yourself. If you can could you provide me with logs in english? Edited February 12, 2015 by huggstah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChaiNspliT 5 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 , deaths advance eigentlich nie gebraucht. Selbst wenn du es nicht benutzt, hat es immernoch einen passiven Effekt, im gegensatz zu Ersticken, was wirklich völlig nutzlos ist. Und in sachen Rota, ich kann die Seite leider nicht "lesen". Aber worauf du Zielen willst sind mind. 60% crit rate für Obliterate und 40% für Froststrike. Um das zu erreichen kannst du dir einen "Swing timer" besorgen, denn Tötungsmaschine procs, proccen immer am anfang deines normalen waffenschlags. Also optimallerweise willst du direkt nach Obliterate Froststrike benutzen, um die chancen nen proc zu verschwenden, zu senken. Generell musst du deine Runenmacht niedrig halten, prio haben aber immer Obliterate procs, selbst wenn deine Runenmacht gecapped ist. Heulende Böe procs erst benutzen, wenn du gleich Obliterate benutzen willst. Benutz PL (Plague Leech) auf CD und infiziere entweder (ohne Glyph of Outbreak) mit Heulende Böe procs und einem Seuchenschlag ODER mit der Glyph of Outbreak (kein CD mehr, kostet 30 Runenmacht) sofort wieder infizieren. Wenn du die Glyphe benutzt, ist das jedoch ein winziger DPS verlust. Viel mehr und genauere info findest du hier: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bmw_9ZvCBNcD79APeHiZ3Nj-M1z1N2v28fqRlKmigO8/preview?sle=true&pli=1#heading=h.8eks4a45d3qy Tut mir leid, dass ich die logs nicht beurteilen kann. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anfauglith 6 Report post Posted February 17, 2015 It very well DOES. You obviously never PL your main target, though. You leech from a nearby add, which is always possible in BrF, except for Gruul, Pacman and occasionally Kromog. Is there a difference if you leech the main target? I mean Necrotic Plague jumps from any mob, so if you leech the main target wouldn't it spread from the add right back on it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VRDRF 9 Report post Posted February 17, 2015 not unless that mob dies with the 15 sticks before it was able to jump to your main target. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChaiNspliT 5 Report post Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) Is there a difference if you leech the main target? I mean Necrotic Plague jumps from any mob, so if you leech the main target wouldn't it spread from the add right back on it? As VRDRF already correctly stated. Your first priority to leech are always adds. Even though NP may spread back from the add to the boss, after a few seconds, there's no guarantee the add may not die in that short span. Or, less devastating but still a DPS loss, the add/boss may not be in range anymore. Edited February 17, 2015 by ChaiNspliT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
