Backstabber 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2015 I'm currently very frustrated with my subtlety performance. Maybe it's my gear decisions (wrong stats) or something else (bad boss uptime, bad luck with debuffs, that force uptime loss), or just my hands. Don't know, but i'm outdpsed by an assasination rogue with the same item level. Any help would be appreciated. My heroic Gruul log - https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/h6vMRZbGgHBWqLjc#fight=17&type=damage-done&source=6 My armory - http://eu.battle.net/wow/ru/character/%D1%81%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%88/%D0%91%D1%8D%D0%BA%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80/advanced Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipsinch 46 Report post Posted February 21, 2015 Quick glance at your armory: Switch Shadow Focus for Subterfuge; Switch Glyph of Deadly Momentum for Vanish Quick glance at your logs: Rupture 97% (Try improving to 99%+, slight better DPS); Use prepot and pot with lust. Nothing else I can see right now, your SnD uptime is perfect, but one thing to watch for is to not overlap SnD unecessarily. Try to refresh when it's near finishing, not just because you got 5CP free. Not saying you do that, but just reassuring you. Same goes to Rupture, specially when you can refresh with any CP quantity and lose damage if not under the 30% time left. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawn 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2015 Cant read russian, dont know if you can translate the log. One big thing to mention is that you should atleast enchant your mythik oh with Mark of Frostwolf. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Backstabber 0 Report post Posted February 21, 2015 Thanks for input. Enchant on weapon is a subject to discuss, because i also use it in combat spec, and i haven't decided yet what enchant will be the most profitable in both specs. About refreshing SnD and rupture - i'm only refreshing them when less then 7 seconds left. My general Find Weakness uptime is around 45%. I guess it's just my gear choices aren't good enough to max dps in subtlety. Thanks for looking into my logs guys! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shammm 1 Report post Posted February 21, 2015 Id also like to hear some deep analysis on this log. Yes he could tighten up his rupture uptime, use subterfuge/take glyph, use more vanishes, use more premeds but is that the only thing u can see from a log ? Everybody keeps saying bout that snd/rupture uptime not being 100% same as opener w garrote, but thing is it doesnt matter how u open and that 2% on rupture isnt a big deal aswell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Backstabber 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2015 Id also like to hear some deep analysis on this log. Yes he could tighten up his rupture uptime, use subterfuge/take glyph, use more vanishes, use more premeds but is that the only thing u can see from a log ? Everybody keeps saying bout that snd/rupture uptime not being 100% same as opener w garrote, but thing is it doesnt matter how u open and that 2% on rupture isnt a big deal aswell I think the reason in my dps being low is not uptime on the boss, it's my stats destribution. I'm pulling 31k on a Butcher in a Highmaul, which is pretty much my highest possible single target DPS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrn 284 Report post Posted February 22, 2015 Lip is pretty much on the nose - even your energy pooling is pretty good. For Sub you should switch the Captive Micro-Aberration for either Coin or Beating Heart of the Mountain - they both line up perfectly with your Shadow Reflection, and will give you significant boosts to your dps. Other than that, another weapon would be good, but you're performing really well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Backstabber 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2015 Lip is pretty much on the nose - even your energy pooling is pretty good. For Sub you should switch the Captive Micro-Aberration for either Coin or Beating Heart of the Mountain - they both line up perfectly with your Shadow Reflection, and will give you significant boosts to your dps. Other than that, another weapon would be good, but you're performing really well Thanks for input. I'm trying my best with the rotation and uptime, but worried that i'm underperforming. You calmed me :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrn 284 Report post Posted February 22, 2015 Just be sure to make the talent / glyph changes that Lip mentioned Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Backstabber 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2015 Just be sure to make the talent / glyph changes that Lip mentioned Will try. Can you point me how to correctly use this abuse (talent+glyph) ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipsinch 46 Report post Posted February 22, 2015 Basically nothing much new. Vanish becomes a mini SDance, so try pooling a bit before using it (60 Ambushes are heavy). But with your gear I believe you can at least unleash 2 or 3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Backstabber 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2015 Basically nothing much new. Vanish becomes a mini SDance, so try pooling a bit before using it (60 Ambushes are heavy). But with your gear I believe you can at least unleash 2 or 3. Thanks for reply. Will try. Again, thanks everyone for responses. Icyveins have a great community! Much appreciated <3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites