Effective use of trinkets, in need of assistance

[BrownDanger 0]

Hi, 

 

Like most others, I'm playing subtlety/combat and currently at 682 ilvl. 

 

so I'm standing here now with 3 trinkets. 

 

Captive Micro-Aberration (ilvl 670)

Lucky Double-Sided Coin (ivl 665)

Beating Heart of the Mountain (ilvl 680)

 

As far as equipping goes, I'm fairly sure that for Beating heart is equipped for both, and lucky for sub, whilst i go with CMA instead for combat.

 

What i'm not sure about tho, is how to best utilize the trinkets in sub specc.

 

Spontaneously, i wanna macro the Beating heart with my shadow reflection/shadow dance and then the double sided coin for my next shadow dance 1 minute later. Obviously because the 2 share a 20 second cooldown whilst the other one is being used.

 

But if i do this, i lose 40 seconds on one trinket each time(use beating heart, 20 seconds passes, then wait another 40 seconds until my shadow reflection is ready again = 40 seconds), compared to if i popped my other trink right after the first ones duration ended. During a long fight, this feels like it could gimp my dps.

 

Thats why I'm asking here, how should i manage 2 activate-trinkets as sub? 

 

Very thankful for help

[Carrn 284]

Use them both with Shadow Reflection. They each have a 2 minute cooldown, which makes your burst during this window incredibly high.

 

Sub relies on spike damage to pull sustained dps - the damage output is alright through most of the fight, but during Dance and even more so during SR your damage is exceptional. Maximizing the high burst windows is your best option

[BrownDanger 0]

Hi, thanks for quick reply.

 

The thing is, i cannot use both during Shadow Reflection, can i? Since they share a 20s CD when one is being used. And by the time my other trink becomes ready, my SR is on CD again for another 2 minutes. Or am i missing something here?

[lipsinch 46]

Carrn, he's right - these trinkets can't be used at teh same time, they share cooldowns.

 

I don't have the numbers, but have you tested it? I think your theory is good, I'd do that myself.

 

If you don't wanna wait for SD CD, you can line up for your Vanishes. Will be inconsistent, but I believe you can use in a shorter fashion that way.

 

For last, I'd suggest you testing it yourself. Pick 2 weeks, on easy fights (Gruul sounds good, or just ask for a Butcher quick run), and test them, back 2 back and waiting for CDs.

Edited March 20, 2015 by lipsinch

[Carrn 284]

Carrn, he's right - these trinkets can't be used at teh same time, they share cooldowns.

 

I don't have the numbers, but have you tested it? I think your theory is good, I'd do that myself.

 

If you don't wanna wait for SD CD, you can line up for your Vanishes. Will be inconsistent, but I believe you can use in a shorter fashion that way.

 

For last, I'd suggest you testing it yourself. Pick 2 weeks, on easy fights (Gruul sounds good, or just ask for a Butcher quick run), and test them, back 2 back and waiting for CDs.

 

O.o

 

I literally had absolutely no idea that they shared a cd, although to be fair I don't have them both.

 

In that case, lining up the Coin with SR and Beating Heart with Dance seems to make the most sense to me.

 

My bad. Even I can be wrong sometimes, I guess :P

[Carrn 284]

So I just remembered that the Alchemy trinkets are in the game now, too. If you happen to be able to use one, it's a good idea to pick one up to use with the Beating Heart. I'd only replace it if you got the Scales or Blackiron Trigger of a similar ilevel

 

So in order, I think your choices would be:

 

Mythic Scales > Heroic Trigger > level 4 Alch Stone > Heroic Scales > Level 3 Stone, Normal Trigger > Coin > your CMA

 

You'll want to double check these on Shadowcraft, since this is literally just off the top of my head as I go off to work

[lipsinch 46]

O.o

 

I literally had absolutely no idea that they shared a cd, although to be fair I don't have them both.

 

In that case, lining up the Coin with SR and Beating Heart with Dance seems to make the most sense to me.

 

My bad. Even I can be wrong sometimes, I guess

 

Just to add evidence, lol

 

http://www.wowhead.com/item=113931/beating-heart-of-the-mountain&bonus=0#shared-cooldown

[Carrn 284]

Not like I didn't believe you >.>

[lipsinch 46]

Not like I didn't believe you >.>

 

<3