The Help My DPS Thread

[tENGEOPH 0]

Warcraftlog  https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zVn9cdaBDAWZ37Fm                       

 

Arrmory       http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/blackhand/Tengeoph/simple              

 

 

 

Feels like I am low. Can anyone see what I can do to improve my DPS?  This shakeup in the system has been a nightmare. 

[spikeysquad 50]

Spikeyshard Armoury

 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zYwJa291MqQy6vHp/#fight=16&type=damage-done&source=10

 

Feel a little bad for asking for help with how busy people are but could someone help me with the Tectus fight please? I have done 22k in Affliction (though that was a faster fight) but to only get 20k in Demo this week I feel ashamed.

 

So yes I realise my DoTs could have better uptime. From what I can remember after 2 of the splits I got the red cloud so I didn't apply them as I should have then but I am sure I was bad at other times as well. I'll be the first to admit I am not the best player especially on the move but I want to improve. 

 

I am missing one Cataclysm. Should be 9 in a 9:50 min fight. 

 

I guess the other issues must be using Dark Soul and other procs badly. Oh and I think Soul Fire capped stacks at one point and I wasn't using all stacks pre-execute on each mob.

 

Oh and I forgot to switch to GoServ.

 

Am I missing anything?

 

A couple of questions if ok.

 

When not Demonbolting is it a case of only Soul Fire in Meta (and ToC on movement) and Shadow Bolt outside? Or do we still have the freedom of the end of MoP in how we build and spend fury? I guess DS should be used in Meta only and then enter Meta with other procs?

 

Does it matter if we Cata in Caster or Meta? Apart from depending on which DoTs need refreshing. 

 

I am not sure what it is with Demo but even though I have played it for months it still doesn't come naturally. It seems like I still need more practice especially now with a non-DB build so that's my priority for the next couple of weeks once I know the theory a bit better. 

 

Overall going through all the logs I played pretty poorly last night but again it's mainly Tectus I want to improve on as the rest I can default Affliction if needs be.

Edited January 5, 2015 by spikeysquad

[Mikedawg 4]

Use Cata in demon form. It applies Doom to all targets and is the reason Demo is the best on Tectus. I'd assume one good intpot+DS+trinkets+felstorm+5 target cataclysm would be the difference between good dps and bad dps.

Edited January 5, 2015 by Mikedawg

[Laxxius 0]

Hello fellow locks! 

 

I am just posting to see if there is anything aside form uptime on my Dots that I can do better. I am at ilvl 646 and really think I should be over 20k and I struggle to hit that. I have linked logs below, granted they are all wipes (I just started logging). I am VERY new to the lock class and leveled 90-100 as Demo and tried aft and destro.

 

I love affliction. love it. Are there any fights that aff is just silly to run? It looks like tectus and imperator I should be running destro (though my havoc cleaves stink atm). My off spec is Destro atm, was considering changing it to Demo. 

 

Heroic Butcher: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yFaqmHpXTj29MPhR

 

Reg Imperator: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PDBpqkXMhTj2Gt4A

 

Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/laughing-skull/Balthur/advanced

 

Hope I provided enough info for a discussion, really looking to steadily do 23K+ in normal and be ready for heroic progression with my guild

[Paracel 165]

@Laxxuis,
There is nothing more to say for Affli than "Work on your dot uptime".

Work on your DoT uptime. 
Last pull Imp was bad, let's face it) ~95% Is optimal. Just mechanics, play more and you'll get to it.
There is no real way to get over 20k in 646 gear IMO. Too weak spec mathematically. I was sth like 650+ when I reached this barrier. But don't think about where you could be in DPS chart. Think about where you are now.

Get a Bleeding hollow ench (you won't change staff soon ) other enchants should be mastery aswell, work on uptimes, strongly consider Soulburn : Haunt talent on Butcher and Twins.
Doomguard burst on butcher is insane.

P.S. My havoc sucks too, Affli on Imp FTW!)

My 2 cents, GL!

Edited January 6, 2015 by Paracel

[Paracel 165]

I guess it's my time to ask for help now)

I raid with a semi-hardcore gulid, showing OK results comparing to them, but I'm still unsure about my performance. Warcraftlogs showed me in ~70%. Mostly Affli player, with Destro for Karg/Brack/Imp.

I've got some logs from this night (normal run with unsucsessful Imp and then some PuG Heroic), tell me where do I  _{disgrace my asian family} do bad things.

My armory link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/fordragon/Морракел/advanced

Fights from normal:

Emperor logs : 
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YR7TgrpQxcCPhdBX#type=summary&boss=1705&wipes=1
Last pull did in Affli, felt unsure about my Destro performance.

Butcher normal
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YR7TgrpQxcCPhdBX#type=summary&fight=4
And HC Butcher with PuG. Somehow very different <_>
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YR7TgrpQxcCPhdBX#type=summary

Same for twins:
Guild normal (Spoiler : I topped) 
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YR7TgrpQxcCPhdBX#type=summary&fight=15
And PuG HC(Spoiler : I didn't)  
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YR7TgrpQxcCPhdBX#type=summary&fight=41

There are also good Bracken(N) destro fight and Koragh(N) in my logs, you can check them too:D

Sorry for logging being in russian. I hope spell icons and nicknames are recognisable.

Thanks in advance!)

[Noveliss 1]

I guess it's my time to ask for help now)

I raid with a semi-hardcore gulid, showing OK results comparing to them, but I'm still unsure about my performance. Warcraftlogs showed me in ~70%. Mostly Affli player, with Destro for Karg/Brack/Imp.

I've got some logs from this night (normal run with unsucsessful Imp and then some PuG Heroic), tell me where do I  _{disgrace my asian family} do bad things.

My armory link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/fordragon/Морракел/advanced

Fights from normal:

Emperor logs : 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YR7TgrpQxcCPhdBX#type=summary&boss=1705&wipes=1

Last pull did in Affli, felt unsure about my Destro performance.

Butcher normal

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YR7TgrpQxcCPhdBX#type=summary&fight=4

And HC Butcher with PuG. Somehow very different <_>

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YR7TgrpQxcCPhdBX#type=summary

Same for twins:

Guild normal (Spoiler : I topped) 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YR7TgrpQxcCPhdBX#type=summary&fight=15

And PuG HC(Spoiler : I didn't)  

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YR7TgrpQxcCPhdBX#type=summary&fight=41

There are also good Bracken(N) destro fight and Koragh(N) in my logs, you can check them too:D

Sorry for logging being in russian. I hope spell icons and nicknames are recognisable.

Thanks in advance!)

Imperator:

Immolate uptime at 82.36% is pretty pitiful. Make an aura or something to track that shit.

5 casts of havoc throughout the fight, when its on a 15s CD, and you have adds every minute or so? Not to mention warmages and reaver. During intermission you should position yourself to shadowburn cleave between the adds and warmages.

It looks like you were casting DS before Nightmare Fire (Sandman's Pouch proc), you want to stack the two not stagger them.

Butcher:

Didn't pop DS during hero. Also, if you are heroing at 30% use doomguard then because he deals 20% extra damage <20% and most, if not all of your procs will proc at the end.

 

[Baal 0]

Hi Baal.

 

First off your armoury is fine, but please enchant that staff you just got with Mark of the Bleeding Hollow. The Mastery proc goes a long way to boosting your overall Chaos Bolt damage. Optimal usage involves bleeding ~4 embers in between 2 min Dark Soul + Trinket dump.

 

Let's start with Brackenspore then... and yeah. what a mess. 15k DPS had you below both tanks.

 

Immolate uptime of 84.98% is terrible. Get that over 95% and maintain it on both the boss and the large add at all times. Cast it on spore shooters if they will live longer than 5 seconds or so.

 

Next thing is... you're using Charred Remains. Erm... what? Why are you using that? Switch to Demonic Servitude and you will see a massive DPS increase. I'm not going to go into too much detail because I think at this point it will just go over your head. Just know that a) Servitude is just better anyway, It gets better the more movement intensive the fight is, and c) Chaotic Resources is even further weakened in high ember situations such as Brackenspore where your ember generation is inflated via Shadowburn sniping a healthy stream of adds.

 

On that note - Havoc usage. Atrocious. You cast Havoc 4 times in a fight that lasted 6 minutes and 15 seconds. It has a 15 second cooldown! Don't glyph it, and start using it on cooldown if possible. Whilst shadowburn cleaving is the most optimal method, I don't want to overload you right now. Get a Weakaura or whatever for Havoc and start using it the moment adds appear. Just focus on getting off Chaos Bolts for now, and once you become comfortable with it start looking to cleave Shadowburns instead.

 

Next - Cooldown usage. Abysmal. You used Dark Soul 3 out of a possible 5 uses! You didn't cast KJC OR MF so that means you had 5 opportunities to use Dark Soul. You are also casting it before the pull even starts. Don't. See the guide for optimal opener. Get a weakaura and track your Dark Soul. Staring at action bars is inefficient and is hurting your DPS big time. 

 

Number of potions used - None - what the hell?

Number of times Fire and Brimstone activated - five - what the hell?

Number of Wand attacks - THREE!!!!! WHAT THE HELLL!?!?!? Why are you shooting your wand at the boss!?!?!

 

There are so many mistakes and critical gameplay issues here that I wonder what you are doing. Have you even attempted to read any of the guides? Watch any videos of Destruction on these fights? Read any of the previous responses to people posting logs and asking for assistance? 

 

You need to sort your user interface out, and brush up on the basics of the spec. There are far larger issues at play here than simply fixing DoT uptimes.

Thanks alot. I read alot of what you have to say and i found some ways to get it fixed. I will post logs this weekend of the raid again so you can compare and contrast. clearly i am not doing basics well enough.  but again thanks alot for the input and i will keep you updated on my progress. you did a great job of pointing eveything out

[Crians 0]

I started doing heroic raids with my guild this week, and I don't seem to pull the same numbers that other warlocks here do. I'm not entirely sure what I'm doing wrong, I attempt to use havoc as much as possible, time dark soul with trinket procs, use shadowburn whenever possible, but I just don't seem to be doing enough damage. On good pulls, I'll get around 21k dps, but when I slip up (which happens more often than not), I get 17-18k dps over the course of imperator's fight.

 

Log:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/r6wyYKN4tFdMvk9g

Armory:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/boulderfist/Crians/advanced

Edited January 6, 2015 by Crians

[Noveliss 1]

I started doing heroic raids with my guild this week, and I don't seem to pull the same numbers that other warlocks here do. I'm not entirely sure what I'm doing wrong, I attempt to use havoc as much as possible, time dark soul with trinket procs, use shadowburn whenever possible, but I just don't seem to be doing enough damage. On good pulls, I'll get around 21k dps, but when I slip up (which happens more often than not), I get 17-18k dps over the course of imperator's fight.

 

Log:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/r6wyYKN4tFdMvk9g

Armory:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/boulderfist/Crians/advanced

Immolate uptime is horrid. That's about it. Needs to be 95%+

Edited January 6, 2015 by Noveliss

[Paracel 165]

...How on earth Destro is this hard?! It should be like the easiest of three, and I used it so I don't mess up when it counts. But looks like it's 100% mess for me  Thank you @Noveliss. _{got to l2p a lot} 

And I got one more question that really grinds my gear.

Missile spells.
I'll try to explain it like this.

Let's pretend we have Chaosbolt with cast time 3sec and crit proc With duration 5sec. Let missile speed be so that CB flies for 1 second.

Situation 1: Proc is active for 5 seconds. I cast CB(3sec)+it flies to target(1sec) and hits. Standart situation, I should get a big CB and have a nice day. Am I right?

Situation 2: Proc is 3.5 seconds left. I cast CB(3sec) so it goes away with the buff on, but proc is not there when CB hits target. Do I get increased damage?

Situation 3. Proc is 2.5 seconds left. I cast CB(3sec) so its cast was started with the buff on, but proc isn't there when CB "takes off" Do I get increased damage?
 

[Drkdragon 9]

...How on earth Destro is this hard?! It should be like the easiest of three, and I used it so I don't mess up when it counts. But looks like it's 100% mess for me  Thank you @Noveliss. _{got to l2p a lot} 

And I got one more question that really grinds my gear.

Missile spells.

I'll try to explain it like this.

Let's pretend we have Chaosbolt with cast time 3sec and crit proc With duration 5sec. Let missile speed be so that CB flies for 1 second.

Situation 1: Proc is active for 5 seconds. I cast CB(3sec)+it flies to target(1sec) and hits. Standart situation, I should get a big CB and have a nice day. Am I right?

Situation 2: Proc is 3.5 seconds left. I cast CB(3sec) so it goes away with the buff on, but proc is not there when CB hits target. Do I get increased damage?

Situation 3. Proc is 2.5 seconds left. I cast CB(3sec) so its cast was started with the buff on, but proc isn't there when CB "takes off" Do I get increased damage?

 

1. Yes

2. Yes

3. No

 

Someone correct me if I am wrong.

[Zagam 1,982]

Spell damage is calculated at execution of CAST, not when the damage number splashes on your screen or hits the target.  Once Chaos Bolt leaves your hand, the damage is already calculated.  The only variance is when a defensive buff is put up on your target as Chaos Bolt is leaving.  This is usually only problematic in PvP, but let's say you have a sweet Chaos Bolt flying towards a target and he becomes immune for whatever reason - it won't do damage.  This is why it's so irritating to see Chaos Bolt travel slower than the speed of smell.

 

So to answer your 3 questions...

 

1.  Yes, because buff was up when cast was finished

2.  Yes, because buff was up when cast was finished

3.  No, because buff ended 0.5 seconds ago when cast was finished.

[Iposs 0]

Hello fellow warlocks 

 

I always played warlock , had good times with it, I always did a good job in raiding but now in wod I just can't get a grip on things.

I play affliction and destro switching depending on bosses.

I have a problem with making decisions during fights, in terms of when to clear my CB's or Haunts, cause I feel like I am wasting dps if I wait for CD's this mostly happens on Destruction because that's the place where I have a trinket, I could not get the haste trinkets yet.

 

I would like some help with fights, I am interested in must have macros and also explanation of what they do and how to use them if possible also what talents should I use and when, like something to help me with dots on Twins.

 

I will link you to my Armory and Logs

 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/1061592/latest

 

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/draenor/Iposs/advanced

[Drkdragon 9]

From what jumps out at me. Take a look at this

 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Bt2kdHFZj4XJAQMf#fight=1&type=casts&source=13&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24auras-gained%24-1%2494250551.0.0.Warlock%2494250551.0.0.Warlock%24true%2494250551.0.0.Warlock%24true%24162919%5E0%24Separate%24%23909049%24auras-gained%24-1%2494250551.0.0.Warlock%2494250551.0.0.Warlock%24true%2494250551.0.0.Warlock%24true%24113858&ability=116858

 

I think you should have saved your third dark soul for the second trinket proc. You also did not get any CB off during that trinket proc either which is a huge dps loss.

 

Also casting no CB from 1:10 in the fight to 2:48 in the fight I have to imagine you were ember capped for some time there. I cannot get the resource pin to show up correctly.

Edited January 6, 2015 by Drkdragon

[Iposs 0]

Thank you for the feedback, 

 

Any help on macros anyone ?

[Paracel 165]

Hi @Iposs!

Work on immo uptime and shadoburns. Your amount of those on fights like Imp and Bracken are pretty darn small.
Try not to play Destro on Twins, Aff do much more work here and lose less.

Mouseover Havoc macro can do some work for you.

I use Destro only on Imp and Bracken, and they are must have IMO

Mouseover Havoc :
#showtooltip
/cast [target=mouseover]Havoc

or focus havoc (i use this over the first one)
#showtooltip
/cast [target=focus]Havoc

Note, however, that your focus on Imp is changing during transition phases with mages.
I made another macro for switching focus on mouseover

/focus [target=mouseover].

Practice and become the best!

Edited January 6, 2015 by Paracel

[Iposs 0]

Paracel 

 

Thanks also one thing, do i replace chaos bold with shadow burn at 20%? i heard SB its not the best option when target is under 20%

 

Also any tips for affliction fights ? should I use mouseover macros as well ?

[Zagam 1,982]

Paracel 

 

Thanks also one thing, do i replace chaos bold with shadow burn at 20%? i heard SB its not the best option when target is under 20%

 

Also any tips for affliction fights ? should I use mouseover macros as well ?

Only use SB through Havoc.

 

Keep DoTs up on Affliction fights. 

[Paracel 165]

I have zero clue about macro for Affli. Any Ideas? I can only think about macroing dots to be cast on focus, focus one Twin and target the other. Ctrl+dot button for those macro can spare some space on the keyboard.

Also,
Can somebody lend me an idea how to make dot tracking WeakAura regardless of which Twin I target>?
My ElvUI died, so I got to adapt ~_~

[Pvpanton 0]

Been away from WoW and grown up a bit,and I think I'm way below my "real" dps (basically I suck at dps). 
Atleast that is what I feel, maybe someone of you guys would help me?
Anyway here is my info; 
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/kazzak/Pvpanton/advanced

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gyvLR7FwV8rxHBqY#fight=4

Just used Butcher as an exemple please look around more if u got the time.
PS think i cleaving correctly with mouseovers and shadowburn.
 

[Paracel 165]

@Pvpanton,

Nightmare fire buff (sandman proc) has 115 ICD. Pretty much the same as darksoul. Use them at the same time.
Cant really tell from log, but looks like you use Glyph of DS in Destro? Bad idea IMO, Nightmare Fire is 20 seconds just as DS. 
Syncronize DS and proc, that should help.
Don't shadowburn on Butch either, it wins over CB only when you Havoc sth.

Also, 1 potion used. Never forget the second!

P.S am I the only one here who has bad gear? 

[Cardio33 3]

Greetings all!

 

Just wanted to post my most recent logs to see if anyone has any recommendations or something that I might have missed.  I felt I did reasonably well on our Kargath to Twins heroic clear but it wasn't good enough to make the cut for mythic since I was sat for those encounters.  Please let me know if you guys have any suggestions as to how I can push my damage into the 30k range on some of these encounters:

 

655 ilevel for this recent raid, percentiles were based off 648 to 662 ranges.

 

I didn't post Kargath because I died while on the phone ha.

 

Butcher

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statistics/6#difficulty=4&bracket=2&dataset=75&boss=1706

 

24.8k, 3:43 min fight, 83% haunting spirit uptime, 48% haunt uptime.  98% uptime on all dots.

75th percentile

 

Brackenspore

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CczfAXkGnKvTpNam/#type=damage-done&fight=7&by=source

 

25.2k, 5:09 min fight, 93% haunting spirit uptime, 43% haunt uptime, 98% uptime on all dots.

50th percentile, really dissappointing here, not sure what went wrong.

 

Tectus

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CczfAXkGnKvTpNam/#type=damage-done&fight=10&by=source

 

21.9k, 6:10 min fight, destro this time, 80th percentile for warlocks but last in my group for damage.

[Clowneater 0]

Hey guys. I feel as though I'm missing something, but I just need some recommendations on how to improve my dps.

 

Armory

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormrage/Bigclown/advanced

 

 

Logs for tonights heroic run

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/24WnyNPDFw9tQ6dh

 

I started tonight as ilvl 654 and ended at 659 with 3 upgrades.

Edited January 7, 2015 by Clowneater

[Minori 1]

Hey friends!!

 

I have been falling really far behind in my DPS, and I think it might be starting to affect progression!! 

 

I need HELP!

I've been trying my best and have honestly nailed the dot-weaving rotation as best as possible but it just is not enough.  Gear isn't really the issue either, since I've been awarded some decent items in order to catch up with the guild!! 

 

Please help me!

 

Log: 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BH43XNQfKjyDF68L#fight=105&type=damage-done

 

Armory (this shit doesn't update on time EVER. it's seriously a joke..):

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/ravenholdt/Minori/advanced