Uliana Seven-Sided Strike Monk

[Farmbuyer 1]

 

How are we supposed to maintain spirit without using generators ? SSS costs 50 and EP 40. If we use nothing but SSS to spread the mystic rhythm buffs, we will run out of spirit quick.

 

EP is spread through the set bonus, so you don't need to cast it at all (outside a few edge cases, outlined in the guide). You only need to have the skill on your bar to force the set into spreading the correct rune.

 

I think his question was less about having EP on the bar, and more about maintaining spirit during the "drag the monsters around to new packs, and use SSS to spread their (MP-buffed) EP" phase of the fight.  The recommendation currently reads that we're only supposed to use Hundred Fists (or whatever generator) to set up Mystic Rhythm, and then stop using Hundred Fists so that we don't accidentally generate a non-MP-buffed Exploding Palm.

 

It's doable with Epiphany running and the occasional pause, but outside that it's just confusing.  Maybe Giorgos and I are both misinterpreting the guide?

[Guest hfxRos]

 

 

How are we supposed to maintain spirit without using generators ? SSS costs 50 and EP 40. If we use nothing but SSS to spread the mystic rhythm buffs, we will run out of spirit quick.

 

EP is spread through the set bonus, so you don't need to cast it at all (outside a few edge cases, outlined in the guide). You only need to have the skill on your bar to force the set into spreading the correct rune.

 

I think his question was less about having EP on the bar, and more about maintaining spirit during the "drag the monsters around to new packs, and use SSS to spread their (MP-buffed) EP" phase of the fight.  The recommendation currently reads that we're only supposed to use Hundred Fists (or whatever generator) to set up Mystic Rhythm, and then stop using Hundred Fists so that we don't accidentally generate a non-MP-buffed Exploding Palm.

 

It's doable with Epiphany running and the occasional pause, but outside that it's just confusing.  Maybe Giorgos and I are both misinterpreting the guide?

 

You are. Once an entire pack has buffed EPs you can feel free to punch all you want, as the 2 piece bonus will not overwrite your EPs. The only time you don't want to punch things is when you are actively trying to spread an old buffed EP to a new group. 

 

[Guest Sunshine]

Why is Madstone not a part of this build? Wouldn't that make for more bodies triggering the explosion for an even greater damage? In other words, if only applying exploding palm through basic attack you end up with maybe 3 who have EP, whereas potentially 7 could have EP if applied using seven sided strike. Does that not change the damage burst?

 

(sorry for the newbie question, started Diablo this week)

[Orthios 271]

Why is Madstone not a part of this build? Wouldn't that make for more bodies triggering the explosion for an even greater damage? In other words, if only applying exploding palm through basic attack you end up with maybe 3 who have EP, whereas potentially 7 could have EP if applied using seven sided strike. Does that not change the damage burst?

 

(sorry for the newbie question, started Diablo this week)

If you used a Madstone, you would be forced to use a Ring of Royal Grandeur either in the Cube or equipped, meaning you couldn't use either Unity or Convention of Elements.  At that, Exploding Palm is applied on all enemies hit on the third use of the generator, and then spread automatically through the 6pc (EP detonates on SSS) and Gungdo Gear bracers (EP explosions apply EP).

[Nytemare 2]

So finally got everything needed for this set, but it seems this set is good fo MT not so much ST. Unless I missing something. Can SSS EP detonates effect even a ST like a RG? so using SSS after Doom EP is on RG, would make RG take each EP explosions? 

 

EP says when target dies, blows up other targets pretty much, but with this set bypassing the whole target needs to die first part, how does this interact with ST like RG? Not sure if they can be hit by the detonates of EP if there no adds around, for those RG that do not summon any adds, for the ones who do, that no brainier

[Orthios 271]

So finally got everything needed for this set, but it seems this set is good fo MT not so much ST. Unless I missing something. Can SSS EP detonates effect even a ST like a RG? so using SSS after Doom EP is on RG, would make RG take each EP explosions? 

 

EP says when target dies, blows up other targets pretty much, but with this set bypassing the whole target needs to die first part, how does this interact with ST like RG? Not sure if they can be hit by the detonates of EP if there no adds around, for those RG that do not summon any adds, for the ones who do, that no brainier

The explosion from EP hits all targets in range, including the mob it was/is on.

[Nytemare 2]

Thanks good to know even on ST they be blown up.

 

By chance what is the highest G-Rift this build can push? Only cleared 55, but trying to find a set that can get me to at least 75, and allow me to farm it, to get two conquest tied to it. Figured since I play solo, those be the two easiest to get for my extra stash tab.

[Orthios 271]

Thanks good to know even on ST they be blown up.

 

By chance what is the highest G-Rift this build can push? Only cleared 55, but trying to find a set that can get me to at least 75, and allow me to farm it, to get two conquest tied to it. Figured since I play solo, those be the two easiest to get for my extra stash tab.

I'll have to get back to you as far as GR pushing with Uliana's (I currently use Sunwuko's build) goes later tonight, but the two conquests I've gotten so far are the 3 gems at 65  (which you can do with GR 65 as your max/on farm, which is what I did) and the 350 cursed chest event (in A5 Path of the Drowned).

 

Edit:  Alright, it's now later, and from my kinda limited testing, Uliana's set is slower than Sunwuko's, but it still cleared GR65.  The problem I see is that it heavily favors dense rifts and sorta falls behind in sparse rifts due to either having to group up mobs or kill small amounts of mobs.  

[Nytemare 2]

 

Thanks good to know even on ST they be blown up.

 

By chance what is the highest G-Rift this build can push? Only cleared 55, but trying to find a set that can get me to at least 75, and allow me to farm it, to get two conquest tied to it. Figured since I play solo, those be the two easiest to get for my extra stash tab.

I'll have to get back to you as far as GR pushing with Uliana's (I currently use Sunwuko's build) goes later tonight, but the two conquests I've gotten so far are the 3 gems at 65  (which you can do with GR 65 as your max/on farm, which is what I did) and the 350 cursed chest event (in A5 Path of the Drowned).

 

Edit:  Alright, it's now later, and from my kinda limited testing, Uliana's set is slower than Sunwuko's, but it still cleared GR65.  The problem I see is that it heavily favors dense rifts and sorta falls behind in sparse rifts due to either having to group up mobs or kill small amounts of mobs.  

 

 

Do you need other to help do the cursed event? 350 sounds like a lot to kill in that short time. I think best I ever done was 125 last season with a crusader.

 

Is Sunwu one that uses Winds? cuz that one I was using both 2/4 and struggle to beat 55. Did it with 40 sec left. Where I been able to do it in under 10 with Pet set.

[dedoder 0]

hope to try the monk soon if i get beta access cant wait to test it

[Deadset 108]

Is Sunwu one that uses Winds? cuz that one I was using both 2/4 and struggle to beat 55. Did it with 40 sec left. Where I been able to do it in under 10 with Pet set.

 

 

Hey, just to chime in - Sunwuko is indeed the set that uses Sweeping Wind, most popularly combining it with Wave of Light (we have a guide on that here: https://www.icy-veins.com/d3/monk-wave-of-light-build-with-the-sunwuko-set-patch-2-4-1). It has been buffed time and again in recent patches, so if you ever wanted to try a ranged Monk - give it a shot! It has been proven to be a 85+ capable spec.

[Vatabane 0]

I haven't played my Seven-Sided-Strike monk in a while, but yesterday I decided to make a couple of rifts, and - to my surprise - the trusted spirit generator (Way of the Hundred Fists, Assimilation) acted really weird. I clearly remember that the Way of the Hundred Fists would ALWAYS port me right to the first monster in a pack covering some 15 to 20 yards (in-game yards, of course; you know what I mean). Now it doesn't always work. Most of the times I have to run to the enemy till I am at the melee distance from him. Sometimes though, the Way of Hundred Fists does port me to the mob, but I just cannot understand what's going on. Other chars of mine function OK. I checked everything - gear, L-gems, cubed items. Just don't know what the trouble is...

 

Anybody playing SSS monks has a similar problem ?

 

Thanks in advance!

[Deadset 108]

On 5/22/2016 at 5:30 PM, Vatabane said:

Just don't know what the trouble is...

It's probably a silly thing, but it's the first thing that comes to mind - maybe you notice the porting while Epiphany is on, and it stops once its off (matching the skill's function to stick you to an enemy)?

[PaasHaaS 81]

Paragon 500 now and those The Fist of Az'Turrasq are still nowhere to be seen...

[Warden 8]

On 5/12/2016 at 0:20 AM, Nytemare said:

 

Do you need other to help do the cursed event? 350 sounds like a lot to kill in that short time. I think best I ever done was 125 last season with a crusader.

 

Assuming you are doing the Cursed Peat chest in Act 5, which is the only one I know of that will actually spawn enough mobs...

The Wave of Light build Deadset linked is perfect for it.  I actually found it easier solo.  With more players, the mobs don't always die in a single hit, and then they swarm you and knock off your Sweeping Wind stacks.  So I did it solo and stood way back.  I couldn't quite get there, though, until I tweaked the build for max spirit regen (most important), and also some one-hit damage and attack speed.  Mostly minor tweaks, swapping out toughness for those other things.  Probably the biggest help was ditching Unity and wearing the Obsidian Ring of the Zodiac. That way I could spam Mystic Ally for more spirit.  When I was done, I could just hold down the mouse button and attack continuously for the whole event, while also keeping up some damage buffs, without running out of spirit.

[Guest jaidynne]

I'm trying this build out after having the Inna set and I have to say, is it just me or is this build VERY squishy? I usually die doing the same difficulty unless I can SSS and explode my mob fast enough...

[Deadset 108]

On 7/14/2016 at 0:38 AM, Guest jaidynne said:

I'm trying this build out after having the Inna set and I have to say, is it just me or is this build VERY squishy? I usually die doing the same difficulty unless I can SSS and explode my mob fast enough...

Is your CDR optimized as per the guide recommendations? The downtime should be minimal between SSStrikes, and you are invulnerable during its animation. Other than that, you might be lacking sustain - Life Regeneration is highly valued in the spec because of that.

[Guest Hereford]

I would really like to know how anyone is getting this build setup.  How the heck do you use Epiphany and Seven Sided Strike in the same build?  I see that this build has been updated recently and there are recent comments on it, so how is this even working?  If you take the Battle.net link you even see that both of those skills are Focus skills and there are two Technique skills chosen as well.  Where is the Secondary skill and the Defensive skill?

Someone please fix this build so that it makes some sort of sense or else inform us on how to skip the Secondary and Defensive skills.

[Guest Guest]

9 hours ago, Guest Hereford said:

I would really like to know how anyone is getting this build setup.  How the heck do you use Epiphany and Seven Sided Strike in the same build?  I see that this build has been updated recently and there are recent comments on it, so how is this even working?  If you take the Battle.net link you even see that both of those skills are Focus skills and there are two Technique skills chosen as well.  Where is the Secondary skill and the Defensive skill?

Someone please fix this build so that it makes some sort of sense or else inform us on how to skip the Secondary and Defensive skills.

Elective mode. Turn it on in your options menu.

[KingCouncil 0]

First off, let me thank you for taking the time to create these guides. I am a casual player and I really appreciate the fact that someone has gone through the theory-crafting to maximize each class/build. Thank you!

I enjoy playing the SSS/EP monk with Uliana's set and I have tweaked my monk to adhere to the most recent changes that you made. I play solo most of the time but I occasionally play with one friend who has a Demon Hunter. In the times when I play with this friend, and I lose my follower (and his unity ring), do you have a suggestion of a ring that I should use in its place? I'm currently using CoE and Compass Rose with Unity in the cube.

Thank you for your feedback.

[Guest nefred]

mo more Mythic Rhythm and Snapshotting 2.4.2 RIP

[Deadset 108]

On 7/29/2016 at 11:14 PM, KingCouncil said:

First off, let me thank you for taking the time to create these guides. I am a casual player and I really appreciate the fact that someone has gone through the theory-crafting to maximize each class/build. Thank you!

I enjoy playing the SSS/EP monk with Uliana's set and I have tweaked my monk to adhere to the most recent changes that you made. I play solo most of the time but I occasionally play with one friend who has a Demon Hunter. In the times when I play with this friend, and I lose my follower (and his unity ring), do you have a suggestion of a ring that I should use in its place? I'm currently using CoE and Compass Rose with Unity in the cube.

Thank you for the kind words! You can actually keep the Unity for its unique Elite Damage affix, even though you lose its damage reduction utility with the follower. If you want something more universal, you can try to obtain a Cold damage Stone of Jordan, ideally getting Cold % / high Elite % / CDR / Socket.

[Guest Barbuth]

After the Mythic Rhythm I think I will replace it by  The Guardian's Path  is it viable ?

 

Could you update the guide ? Or MR is still good ?

[Guest Vachor]

After the Mythic Rhythm I think I will replace it by  The Guardian's Path  is it viable ?

 

Could you update the guide ? Or MR is still good ?

[Guest Theolonius]

Hey all, I'm rather new to Diablo (only started playing a few days ago). Please correct me if I'm missing something, as I'm still quite a low-leveled Monk. Deadset's guide requires Exploding Palm binded to right-click, and Dashing Strike binded to Key 2 in both of his builds, Solo or Speedrun. The issue for me is that Exploding Palm can only be binded to Key 2 for me--do I have to rebind my keys? Will I have an option later on as I reach level cap to rebind Key slot skills to left/right mouse clicks?

Please clarify for me asap, thanks.