Vyr Archon Wizard

[Sandman 0]

this build can't even handle TXIII... i got over half ancient gear...

what gives? :s

[Guest Traahbait]

I don't know how this build survies. I'm getting wreck in TX by trash mobs IN ARCHON with FULL 20 stacks on Chantodo's will. T fliping X lol. I was doing better with my kitchen sink electrocute build made out of spare parts... this is sad. Obviously something is not quite right here. 

[Guest Freyja]

Ok, that's all good but where do I get all the gear?  This guide makes it sound like the gear is just readily available for the taking, but I've been playing a Wizard for several months and I only have Vyr's helmet and gloves, plus the Chantodo's set.  I have a few other items from other sets, plus a few Legendary items, but finding a complete set is almost impossible.  Got any tips for finding items?

[Valks 2,375]

On 1/3/2017 at 3:44 AM, Guest Traahbait said:

I don't know how this build survies. I'm getting wreck in TX by trash mobs IN ARCHON with FULL 20 stacks on Chantodo's will. T fliping X lol. I was doing better with my kitchen sink electrocute build made out of spare parts... this is sad. Obviously something is not quite right here. 

Can you show me your Wizard please?

[Valks 2,375]

On 1/6/2017 at 3:21 PM, Guest Freyja said:

Got any tips for finding items?

I mean, the easiest way is generally to simply farm rifts. The game is RNG by nature, but there are plenty of ways to get gear. Farm GRs, use Kanai's Cube upgrades, Kadala, bounties to reroll badly rolled items etc.

[Guest CavalierKong]

I'm kind of a noob so please forgive me if my question is a poor one. I'm paragon 62, with 2 Vyr's set pieces. I just got Chantodo's Will, but it doesn't list the set buffs as having anything to do with Archon, it adds Int, shield bonus, and elite damage bonus. Did they change the Chantodo's set? It seems like that is a major blow to this build if so.

[Guest daveypro]

you need Chantodo's Force as well . the orb and the wand are independent of other sets

[Valks 2,375]

On 3/12/2017 at 10:13 PM, Guest CavalierKong said:

I'm kind of a noob so please forgive me if my question is a poor one. I'm paragon 62, with 2 Vyr's set pieces. I just got Chantodo's Will, but it doesn't list the set buffs as having anything to do with Archon, it adds Int, shield bonus, and elite damage bonus. Did they change the Chantodo's set? It seems like that is a major blow to this build if so.

Hey there! As mentioned above, it is only one part of the set. If you find the off-hand as well, you'll get the following set effects:

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Every second while in Archon form you expel a Wave of Destruction, dealing 350% weapon damage to enemies within 30 yards.

Every time you hit with an attack while not in Archon form, 350% weapon damage is added to the Wave of Destruction, stacking up to 20 times.

Sorry that I didn't find your comment sooner!

[Valks 2,375]

18 hours ago, Guest daveypro said:

you need Chantodo's Force as well . the orb and the wand are independent of other sets

Thanks for helping with that davey :)

[aophts 0]

wrong place

 

Edited May 11, 2017 by aophts

[aophts 0]

There is clearly something wrong with your builds dude. Just tried this one on a Rift T12 and got decimetated, even with 61%CDR, i can return to archon and still have stacks but it didn't matter.

 

Your firebird/archon doesn't work, this one doesn't work, why?

 

Only your Spectral one worked for me and it worked great, like, for T13 with little to no problems and i'm grateful to you, but how come this two with Archon can't take on T12?

[Guest miniMasterDE]

I don't think that this build is still viable.

On my wizard (Paragon 720) I tried this build. I have all ancient gear (except Traveler's Pledge) plus most of it has all the right attributes rolled. Compared to a Vyr'Rasha speedfarming build (without the Hydras), this Vyr-only build is just soooo weak.

Thinking about it, it doesn't really astound me, because what makes those Lightning Wizards so viable is the combination of Paralysis and Manald Heal with 14.000% damage. Due to the archon stacks, you gain up to 5.00 attacks per second (cap) and this makes up for the "low" proc chance of Paralysis. With a fully stacked Chantodo you gain 7.000% extra damage but with the Lightning Wizards, your damage is 14.000% like every second plus maybe an additional Tal'Rasha bonus.

I would try to make this viable by changing the following:

Skills:

Arcane Torrent (Static Discharge)

Archon (Slow Time)

Teleport (Calamity)

Magic Weapon (Ignite)

Ice Armor (Reflect)

Diamond Skin (Crystal Shell)

 

Passives:

Paralysis

Evocation

Unstable Anomaly

Power Hungry

 

Gear:

Halo of Arlyse Manald Heal

 

Cube:

The Furnace Starfire

 

Gems:

Bane of the Powerful Zei's Stone of Vengeance

[wohisme 0]

I really like this build, but find it impossible for solo high grifts. i understand the mechanics of the set and getting the stacks up before releasing the potential in archon, constantly moving between packs to increase and maintain high stats and then re-starting the process over with background boost from last archon uptime. The problem I have is that, in many cases, when you hit level 70 rifts, you don't have anywhere near enough tankiness to survive until you have 20 chantodo's stacks to hit archon in the first place (flash mobs just inside rifts etc). A shame as it's a great class otherwise. Other complaints are just a lack of understanding of the play style.

Edited June 16, 2017 by wohisme

[Valks 2,375]

The Vyr Archon build does still function if anyone is wondering from the above comments - it is definitely a low tier build though and won't be used as an easy-farming build. You're better off running the Tal-Vyr Archon build that is currently the best build.

[Guest Guest]

Mid tier? Vyr archon almost reaches coe tal/vyr now and it's a lot easier to play. Cratic has video of a 107 clear with 18k main stat - quite an achievement. High paragon players could easily reach 112+. A few comments on this outdated guide:

1) chantodo is no longer 7000% as the text states

2) audacity could be a better option than power hungry for chantodo vyr

3) Attack speed is the single most important weapon roll for vyr mh builds. Archon attack speed is snapshot when entering archon form. It is crucial to get the requirement for 5 APS (highest breakpoint = more mh procs = highest damage), which will require 174 stacks in addition to fazula if you have AS rolled on weapon (virtually impossible without AS)

4) another option would be to ditch chantodo and have pig sticker (1.5 base speed, damage + 4 stats: CDR, AS, %DMG, INT, bonus to beasts/humans) and either OoID (dr and dmg carry to first 6 sec of archon and make sure you stay alive in non-archon) or etched (using blackhole as sole spender, it provided cc and lightning fast resets)

I know it's a lot and I don't expect anyone to pay attention to my posts in wiz and barb guides but I really feel some of these guides can be improved. 

[Valks 2,375]

On 11/4/2017 at 12:38 AM, Guest Guest said:

I know it's a lot and I don't expect anyone to pay attention to my posts in wiz and barb guides but I really feel some of these guides can be improved. 

That's what I'm here for :) Passing this on to Deadset.

[Kaelos 74]

Just a little detail: in speed farming variant stats on amulet and bracers should be changed to lightning damage instead any elemental as this build uses manald heal now

[Valks 2,375]

On 11/15/2017 at 8:21 PM, Kaelos said:

Just a little detail: in speed farming variant stats on amulet and bracers should be changed to lightning damage instead any elemental as this build uses manald heal now

Will get Deadset to change the wording!

[Guest AkkE]

This guide needs a rework. Vyr build is a easy way to boost your up in comparison to Tal/VYR, I am a low average D3 player but since the patch this build got a huge buff.

Never get so easy  GR 85 even with bad CDR stats (59) and Paragon 700 and only 1 item upgraded with legend gem. I dont know what happend if i get better endless walk set and cdr 63+

 

I used a small guide from the battle.net forum but i would prefere to read it here because here are a lot more explanations and a better overview.

And what weapon should i prefere? Starfire or  chantodo? and why

[Valks 2,375]

On 11/24/2017 at 1:12 AM, Guest AkkE said:

This guide needs a rework. Vyr build is a easy way to boost your up in comparison to Tal/VYR, I am a low average D3 player but since the patch this build got a huge buff.

There's a small set of changes coming to the guide, but the majority of it will stay the same - there is little to change outside of changing the recommend weapon/OH to Pig Sticker/Orb of Infinite Depth. You will take Pig Sticker on character and Starfire in cube.

[Guest Guest]

So I'm pretty new to d3 and trying this build out. At around gr80 now. I feel like my archon is really weak but out of archon (with swami stacks) my arcane torrent melts everything. Is archon supposed to feel so weak or am I missing something here?

 

[Guest Rosiv]

There is a Frozen Orb Build with Vyr around.
Surprisingly not here, but this is using exactly what you describe:
Gain Archon stacks in Archon and then use them OUTSIDE Archon for huge amount of damage with the frozen orbs.

Would love to see this build here, but yes, outside Archon you are doing even more damage than inside it - at least in the build I saw on servers.

[Guest YEAHBOI]

On 12/6/2017 at 12:01 AM, Guest Guest said:

So I'm pretty new to d3 and trying this build out. At around gr80 now. I feel like my archon is really weak but out of archon (with swami stacks) my arcane torrent melts everything. Is archon supposed to feel so weak or am I missing something here?

 

i'm pretty sure you missed lightning damage, make sure it's your highest elemental buff so when in archon form you hit with blue beam lightning

[Guest Curious]

can anyone confirm if the "disintigration wave" in archon form gains the buff of deathwish?

[Guest Vdventures]

Why wouldn’t you use Chantodos Will and Force as the weapon and offhand as it gives 2000% buff to archon???