Secret Paladin Wild

[Guest Soulreaver]

Which would be best in place of Tirion? BOK, Sylvanis, or something else? Thoughts?? Thanks in advance! :-)

*Maybe even a Piloted Sky Golem perhaps??...

Ended up going with another BOK, seems to be working very well overall so far... Ps. Thanks for all your hard work, Sottle! And, Love your twitch stream, especially when you're going off on this deck. Lol. Keep it up, Cheers! :-)

[Guest W8_4U]

This deck 2 slow 4 meta right now, i would set reacheble rank at 8

[positiv2 953]

This deck 2 slow 4 meta right now, i would set reacheble rank at 8

 

This deck can be seen in legend ranks (or at the very least near them). Midrange decks are usually the ones that can be played at any meta with some changes as they should outlast aggro and be fast enough to beat control decks. Midrange decks are in my opinion dominant in current meta.

 

Secret Paladin is one of the harder decks to master. It is also a new deck (only few months old) and it is still evolving. Watching streamers who build their own decks can help you because they update it quite often. 

[killakm 0]

idk if my last post worked or not, sorry i just started using this website. possibly trading a knife juggler for eadric the pure was my question

[positiv2 953]

idk if my last post worked or not, sorry i just started using this website. possibly trading a knife juggler for eadric the pure was my question

 

Eadric is a card that does not fit the deck much. Eadric the Pure is a control tool and this is sort of an aggro deck that has lategame cards as finishers. Eadric has also low attack and because of this, he can't be used as a finisher. In the end, it is a card that might not see play even in control paladin.

 

Although you won't need it now, your first post has to be approved. After that, you are allowed to post as much as you like (but of course, follow the rules) as long as you are logged in. 

[Guest jack]

I don't have Coghammer. Can i substitute it with 2nd murloc knight?

[Sottle 221]

Sure.

[Guest Wulala]

Hi Sottle, 

 

Should i cut any card for Divine Favor? 

[Sottle 221]

Nah this deck just plays a solid curve of things to do, you don't really need to refill too often. Divine Favor is more for the lower curve aggressive Pally decks.

[batanete 28]

You have no idea how much i hate this deck... I'm going to be playing it for some time now just so I(hopefully) learn how to counter it without having to play things like freeze mage.

[Guest Feit]

I played that deck quite a lot now, and iam currently Rank 8. My opinion on this that is as following - The turn 1-4 drops are great, nohing to say about that - but if you're either unlucky, to not have a knight for turn 6 - or your enemy can withstand a turn 6 knight drop - you're screwed, imo the deck should be tweaked a bit

 

iam actually trying the deck with divine favor and a Mukla's as a potential turn 7 drop.

[Sottle 221]

Uh, you have two Challengers in the deck as well, which is the best possible 6-drop in the game. You're really not short of options on 6.

[Guest Feit]

i meant the challenger. sry - i translated it by myself from the german word, and there it would be "mysterious knight"

 

imo this deck needs a bit of tweaking so that you are not thaaaaat forced to pull out a challenger at 6 to win, because you will also be screwed if you draw nearly all secrets till turn 6. but thats just my opinion - over all the deck is great and a lot of fun/trying to master it

 

 

[Sottle 221]

This deck list is pretty consistent, and is currently dominating a 5k tournament that i'm casting right now (we're on a break). It's been one of the strongest decks in the game for a while, and has been refined pretty well to this point. There is a slightly different list that is closer to pure Midrange Pally that i'll upload soon, but for the most part, the deck is set.

[Guest mark]

Which one of these is the best replacement for Coghammer?

 

2nd Consecration/Equality/2nd Truesilver Champion/Quartermaster

[sKRZYNIU 0]

With my deck I have reached 12lvl, for now (no legends) - http://i.imgur.com/8XlTRbx.png

Best part is when you start second, player puts minion and you put right away Blessing of Wisdom  on it. I had games when player for few rounds didn't atacked with it

[batanete 28]

Do you think that playing the list you were using today on stream(not this one, the one with the chows) with a rag instead of tirion is fine or is the deck too weakened by the change? I have every card in the deck except tirion. I realise that tirion is a hard card to replace on any paladin deck, but my dust total is pretty low right now.

Edited October 26, 2015 by batanete

[positiv2 953]

Do you think that playing the list you were using today on stream(not this one, the one with the chows) with a rag instead of tirion is fine or is the deck too weakened by the change? I have every card in the deck except tirion. I realise that tirion is a hard card to replace on any paladin deck, but my dust total is pretty low right now.

 

The core still stays - you have Challengers, secrets and few late-game threats. Although you will lose one of the strongest legendaries, Rag should be a decent "budget swap." Tirion is often the MVP, but hopefully Rag will be sometimes one, too.

[batanete 28]

Nevermind, i subbed rag for KT and I've been destroying people on ranks 4-3 whenever I feel dirty enough to change to this deck :P

[CuongMai 0]

Will try this next season but for now, I just want to counter this deck . I am sitting at rank 1-2 now and i don't think i have time to pratise on this deck. So Sottle, what decks do you think are good against this? I have Control Warrior and Dragon Priest. Do you think Midrange Hunter with 2 Flare worth trying?

[Sottle 221]

2 Flare is an extreme overreaction, even 1 might be too many, Explosive Trap is a much more consistent answer that isn't just outright terrible in every other matchup. Face Hunter, Midrange Hunter with Explosive Trap, or Freeze Mage are all good answers.

[batanete 28]

Shouldn't you just change "anti-aggro" to anti everything? xD

 

People say freeze mage is a hard counter for this deck, and I am yet to lose to one. Control warrior gets crushed, priest gets crushed, face hunter gets crushed,...

 

Blizzard should just delete MC from existence.

[positiv2 953]

Shouldn't you just change "anti-aggro" to anti everything? xD

 

People say freeze mage is a hard counter for this deck, and I am yet to lose to one. Control warrior gets crushed, priest gets crushed, face hunter gets crushed,...

 

Blizzard should just delete MC from existence.

 

Yes, the only "proper counter" would be a mirror match. MC is really strong, but of course, only in a good player's hands. I meet a lot of secret pallys and yet have a 62% winrate because they can't play the deck properly. But of course, when I play against a good player piloting the deck, I get absolutely crushed. So yeah, MC should be nerfed

Now, would you completely remove it or would you nerf it? If nerf, then how? (not rhetorical question, I am genuinely asking about your opinion)

[batanete 28]

 

Shouldn't you just change "anti-aggro" to anti everything? xD

 

People say freeze mage is a hard counter for this deck, and I am yet to lose to one. Control warrior gets crushed, priest gets crushed, face hunter gets crushed,...

 

Blizzard should just delete MC from existence.

 

Yes, the only "proper counter" would be a mirror match. MC is really strong, but of course, only in a good player's hands. I meet a lot of secret pallys and yet have a 62% winrate because they can't play the deck properly. But of course, when I play against a good player piloting the deck, I get absolutely crushed. So yeah, MC should be nerfed

Now, would you completely remove it or would you nerf it? If nerf, then how? (not rhetorical question, I am genuinely asking about your opinion)

 

I disagree that secret paladin is hard to play. The deck resembles druid in the sense that you spend most of the game just playing stuff on curve and snowballing into a win, but at least druid is a bit harder to manage during the early turns.

 

Personally I can see what they tried to do with the card(make paladin secrets a bit more viable in constructed) but I don't think this is the way to do it. The card should either undergo an extreme nerf(something like changing it to inspire:summon a random secret from your deck) or just straight up deleted from the game.

[Guest bayer.bertalan@gmai]

I have to say that 4 secrets to 2 challengers are just useless, you draw your secrets in the early game and than you have two expensive 6 drop minions for nothing but the body. I've tried several secret decks and you really need more secrets to make the deck viable.