Trinket Question

[Cardio33 3]

Why does everyone use Desecrated Shadowmoon Insignia?

 

I put my values simcraft into mr. robot and get class trinket + unbinding Gaze as top combos.  The guide on this website seems to grossly over-estimate chipped soul prism, which clearly no one runs.

 

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/affliction-warlock-pve-dps-gear-loot-best-in-slot#sec-2-12

[Orthios 271]

First: AMR is a tool, and you have to know how it works to get the best results. What AMR does is it combines both Single Target and Multi Target scenarios when outputting its results. This can cause some discrepancies with what you would actually use, given the nature of the spec. You wouldn't typically use Affliction on say Iskar or Xhul (where you'd typically play Destro), unless you are burning the boss and doing as much ST damage as possible, in which case you wouldn't care about multi target damage since that isn't your "job".

DSI is a very powerful trinket since it is loaded with passive Mastery, which is a strong stay for all 3 warlock specs. Unblinking Gaze of Seethe is a decent multi target trinket, but fairly lackluster for single target damage. And finally the Class trinket, which is good for cleave like fights (many large adds or bosses) and single target fight, but falls behind on short lived adds. Chipped Soul Prism is a good trinket since it provides a TON of passive stats on it, and will provide the least amount of DPS variance. The reason you see nobody running it is that you're more than likely only looking at top parses. If you're just getting into HFC and don't have many trinket options, CSP is a very viable option until you get better trinket to replace it with.

[Lockybalboa 618]

Why does everyone use Desecrated Shadowmoon Insignia?

 

 

Because it is hands down the best  destro/aff warlock trinket in game currently. Depending on what you are doing it is also the best demo trinket.

 

 

I put my values simcraft into mr. robot and get class trinket + unbinding Gaze as top combos.  

 

I don't recommend AMR, ever. The information it gives is without context making the information itself almost useless and more often then not plainly wrong. Warlock is one of the more complex classes when it comes to the range of options in jobs, spec, and gear making it a poor candidate for AMR.

 

 

The guide on this website seems to grossly over-estimate chipped soul prism, which clearly no one runs.

 

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/affliction-warlock-pve-dps-gear-loot-best-in-slot#sec-2-12

 

 

I think this was due to a SimC error when the list was made, because it has no place being anywhere close to that high. But I seem to remember something about an error somewhere and the only thing I can think of would have been SimC. As you can see the list has not been touched since June.

 

CSP isn't a bad starter trinket and depending on what content is available to you might be pre-HFC BiS - but it is absolutely not end game BiS.

[Axxym 2]

Yeah, all those warlock rankings in the 99th percentile using DSI - in every spec - are wrong because AMR said so.

 

Never question DSI.  Never.

[Liquidsteel 279]

AskMrRobot isn't bad, it's just not something you can blindly trust. It's the same as Simcraft these days; in almost all scenarios Simcraft is a poor model for actual encounters because it only reflects patchwerk, of which we have very few real world examples these days.

 

I used AMR a lot in MoP for reforging and gemming. I told IT what I wanted from my reforge, however I very rarely if it all used it for gear upgrades or comparison.

 

With reforging and haste breakpoints gone, for me the tool has fallen out of use. Objectively it's not bad, it just needs to be treated as a tool and not a person.

[Cardio33 3]

Are there any up to date websites? I saw Zagram quit and folded his website. I'm coming off a 6 month break so I'm not completely naked geared; 717 I level right now and have mythic version of all previous tier trinkets. Have mythic with socket for GSR

[HeadBeeGuy 11]

If you're just looking at trinkets, it's more or less always class trinket + DSI for Aff and mythic GSR + DSI for Destro. YMMV with the mythic dungeon heirloom trinket on demon bosses, but I'd make sure to keep DSI at all times.

As far as your other gear, Aff uses tier + Archi shoulders and Destro uses tier + Archi head. Other pieces don't matter too much as long as they have mastery. Shoot for Archi staff for both specs.

[Twinkielock 15]

GSR is still tops even though you can't upgrade it?  Would you use the class trinket with destro?

 

What about Mythic Iron Piston w/ Socket?  Would you use that?

Edited January 13, 2016 by Twinkielock

[Axxym 2]

GSR is still a very good trinket, yes.  Really wouldn't recommend class trinket for Destro for any encounters anymore - you'd be better off playing Affliction if you think the Destro class trinket would be good on an encounter.

 

Mythic IRP w/ socket is good, yes.  Yes I would use it.  I've used an unsocketed Mythic IRP as my second trinket for months and it's surprisingly not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.  

[vaeevictiss 17]

I use dsi and sandmans pouch maxed for destro and that works great for me. More so than dsi and mythic gsr. 

 

I also swap out pouch for the orb on mythic gorfiend because i like 1m chaos bolt hits lol. 

Edited February 17, 2016 by vaeevictiss