Sagnuts 1 Report post Posted May 3, 2013 If it isn't nerfed, which it inevitably will be, the entirety of tier 16. They also just buffed it via making wild imps scale with haste on the ptr, they really are fucking stupid.Link Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gahhda 95 Report post Posted May 3, 2013 http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/blog/7892888/53_PTR_Patch_Notes_-_April_22-23_04_2013#general Classes: The following summoned pets/totems will now chain cast their spells with no delay between casts, allowing them to cast their spells more frequently in the same amount of time. Warlock: Doomguard, Terrorguard, Wild Imp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sagnuts 1 Report post Posted May 3, 2013 http://eu.battle.net...04_2013#general Classes: The following summoned pets/totems will now chain cast their spells with no delay between casts, allowing them to cast their spells more frequently in the same amount of time. Warlock: Doomguard, Terrorguard, Wild Imp Nice! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,982 Report post Posted May 3, 2013 Won't be a buff to Wild Imps. They cast 10 bolts and that's it. Haste won't affect the number of casts, but it'll increase burst by making them cast faster. What I'm interested in is the assumed Doomguard Haste thresholds for more than 17 Doombolts. That could get interesting... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JvChequer 43 Report post Posted May 3, 2013 (edited) Finally the damn Doomguard get some buffs. I hope. If he still only casts 17 fuckin' doombolts I will fuckin crush him on the wall and rip off your stupid demon wings. /ragequit Edited May 3, 2013 by JvChequer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omaric 246 Report post Posted May 3, 2013 (edited) I don't know about you guys, but I'm seeing my Wild Imps casting non-stop on the Live servers already. Not sure what that change would be for. Edited May 3, 2013 by Omaric Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JvChequer 43 Report post Posted May 3, 2013 The mage fire gave me the UVLS trinket after hours of wall text explaining why it sucks for mages, now, i need re-learn how to handle with so much Cds in Demonology to back to this amazing spec. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omaric 246 Report post Posted May 3, 2013 The mage fire gave me the UVLS trinket after hours of wall text explaining why it sucks for mages, now, i need re-learn how to handle with so much Cds in Demonology to back to this amazing spec. GRATS!! =D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladMTL 1 Report post Posted May 7, 2013 for affliction you guys reckon is worth keeping the megaera's LFR trinket version over normal unerring vision ? thanks ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,982 Report post Posted May 7, 2013 They're likely very close in real play considering proc rate. Having the LFR version sucks because you have a 20% less chance to proc it via RealPPM values. What's the other trinket you're not considering here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladMTL 1 Report post Posted May 7, 2013 They're likely very close in real play considering proc rate. Having the LFR version sucks because you have a 20% less chance to proc it via RealPPM values. What's the other trinket you're not considering here? i run now with 522 wush & unerring Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omaric 246 Report post Posted May 7, 2013 i run now with 522 wush & unerring That sounds awful. Go Demo and love it. :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Altar 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2013 Hello Zagam hello everyone, again i need your help. :) Can you please help about trinket choice ? Wushoolay's Final Choice Thunderforged 528 Breath of the Hydra 522 Cha-Ye's Essence of Brilliance 522 Unerring Vision of Lei-Shen 522 Volatile Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault For Affliction: 1) Breath of the Hydra 522 2) Wushoolay's Final Choice Thunderforged 528 For Demonology 1)Unerring Vision of Lei-Shen 522 2) ? For Destruction 1) ? 2) ? At 11k haste, wushoolay procs very well sometimes, but sometimes it is not proccing for a long time lol. Can you please give some advice about trinkets? Thank you. ^^ http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/silvermoon/Altar/advanced Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sifon 25 Report post Posted May 7, 2013 For Demonology I'd say BotH with UVoLS and for Destruction I'd say Wush-BotH. BotH is just an awesome trinket that goes with every spec, Cha-ye's kinda have the same with half the duration and double the proc rate but haste is so yummy for every spec. UVoLS doesn't fit Destruction very much but Wush is awesome for it because you can dump Chaos Bolts with 7+ stacks. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddik 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2013 Well I had to register just to ask a question that is killing me. I have all the trinkets 522 normal right now and I play Destriction usually, swapping to Demonology for fights like Durumu and Council. My concern is about the hit cap using different trinkets, atm I'm using Woosh/Hydra for Destruction but to swap to Demo I lost the hit from Woosh wich drops my hit to like 12.2%. What would be a good solution for this? Use UVoLS and Hydra and reforge everytime (Wouldn't like to do this)? Or just go Woosh/UVoLS? Thanks in advance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladMTL 1 Report post Posted May 8, 2013 They're likely very close in real play considering proc rate. Having the LFR version sucks because you have a 20% less chance to proc it via RealPPM values. What's the other trinket you're not considering here? thanks, was pretty obvious if I'd have thought a bit before asking that due to the proc chance which was posted somewhere on these forums already, thanks ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syntii 2 Report post Posted May 8, 2013 So all these Caster Trinkets really exist ? I have BotH but thats it. Never even seen one of the other in normal and LFR. Thank God i got LotC Heroic for Affliction, but Wush would be sooo nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gazooten 6 Report post Posted May 10, 2013 With 5.3 coming soon, and the return of item upgrades :D does anyone know if you upgrade a RPPM trinket will it also upgrade the proc chance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,982 Report post Posted May 10, 2013 Yes, it will. I'll update the original trinket post to include that calculation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,982 Report post Posted May 10, 2013 There we go...added all potential item levels for all versions of trinkets. Formula is neat. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,982 Report post Posted May 10, 2013 Just for funsies, I also added the best possible proc rate for each PPM trinket (Wush, Breath, Unerring, Cha-Ye's) with either 45% Raid Haste or 50% Raid Crit. See in the first post. To calculate your proc rate, just plug your Haste value in and there ya go. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obleak 10 Report post Posted May 11, 2013 (edited) I would like to throw out... if you use uvls trinket correctly with the abuse of soul swapping would you not see uvls pushing must farther ahead with affliction assuming you have massive CRIT dots up all the time? D: Mind you this is theoretical since i've not acquired the darn trinket.. actually it's never dropped for my raid.. i'm thinking we get the same drops on most bosses.. :( annoying Edited May 11, 2013 by obleak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gahhda 95 Report post Posted May 13, 2013 I would like to throw out... if you use uvls trinket correctly with the abuse of soul swapping would you not see uvls pushing must farther ahead with affliction assuming you have massive CRIT dots up all the time? D: Mind you this is theoretical since i've not acquired the darn trinket.. actually it's never dropped for my raid.. i'm thinking we get the same drops on most bosses.. annoying Horridon, Council, Tortos, Megaera, Dark animus, Heroic twin consorts ^ Fights where you can effectively soulswap snapshot your way to success. So, setting aside the fact that its limited to ~half the bosses, UVLS is a massive part of it yes. Its a free 2x damage to all of your dots whenever they tick. Also on the list of things that make it op: Tricks for the +15%, a large int trinket (breath/chayes..preferably breath), engineering, tailoring, prepot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obleak 10 Report post Posted May 13, 2013 (edited) Well that is still a majority of the bosses i can deal with that! For however long it works... i don't have uvls.... maybe tonight the boss will decide to grace me with it! Breath of Hydra and Woosho's works well though. Thanks Gahdda Edited May 13, 2013 by obleak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
candleman101 0 Report post Posted May 13, 2013 Hey guys im a destruction warlock i currently Grimiore of sacrifice i currently have the Volatile Talisman of the shadow-pan assault - and i then have one of all 4 of the tot rf trinket's which is the best combo for a grim of sac spec Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites