LoN FoK Demon Hunter

[Damien 1,514]

This thread is for comments about our LoN FoK Demon Hunter Build Guide.

[Guest Ngoc Yen]

Hi there,

Looking for a break from Multishot build, I tried this one and failed miserably. Right now I do not have the forteress ballista so I used calamity instead. But my main problem is hatred management. Vengeance rune of choice is Dark heart as recommended, and no gear slot is dedicated to resource reduction. So I can strafe for like 10-15s before running dry. What did I miss here?

[Deadset 108]

On 8/5/2016 at 4:42 PM, Guest Ngoc Yen said:

Hi there,

Looking for a break from Multishot build, I tried this one and failed miserably. Right now I do not have the forteress ballista so I used calamity instead. But my main problem is hatred management. Vengeance rune of choice is Dark heart as recommended, and no gear slot is dedicated to resource reduction. So I can strafe for like 10-15s before running dry. What did I miss here?

Heya - do you make a point to shoot Evasive Fire frequently enough? The build punctuates Strafe with Evasive Fire basically every other second, it's the only way to maintain Hatred. Shift (default keybind to stand still) + Left click to Evasive Fire while still holding Strafe is how most high ranking players do it; it takes a little getting used to, but has a rhythm to it that's easy to follow once you get the hang of it.

[Guest Ngocyen]

Thanks for the tips Deadset.

Unfortunately I'm on PS4 so I guess that it will be the old Taeguk story again.

Btw, unrelated to this build, but I think it might help a lot if you could point out which build is not viable for PS4. For example I learned the Corruption bug too late before my stock of legendary material is burnt out while trying to apply Carnevil build on WD.

[Deadset 108]

On 8/12/2016 at 5:43 PM, Guest Ngocyen said:

Thanks for the tips Deadset.

Unfortunately I'm on PS4 so I guess that it will be the old Taeguk story again.

Btw, unrelated to this build, but I think it might help a lot if you could point out which build is not viable for PS4. For example I learned the Corruption bug too late before my stock of legendary material is burnt out while trying to apply Carnevil build on WD.

Heya - noted! I'll make a point to include something like 'not console friendly' early on in the description of future builds.

[Guest Kev]

Using this build feels like fishing for the right rift and then realizing if you didn't keep moving over the whole thing or decided to finish off the last bit of hp on an elite mob you fall short of time.

[Valks 2,375]

On 10/8/2016 at 4:22 AM, Guest Kev said:

Using this build feels like fishing for the right rift and then realizing if you didn't keep moving over the whole thing or decided to finish off the last bit of hp on an elite mob you fall short of time.

There's no secret that this build definitely needs to fish. It's a very particular style of play and something that I, personally, don't enjoy.

[Guest legacy of nightmares]

i have tried this build although i dont have a full set ancient i still have 9 parts inluding ancient rings but the build seems to fail massively on damage i just dont know what i am doing wrong i guess back to the multishot build for me until i work out what is wrong

[Valks 2,375]

On 10/20/2016 at 8:16 PM, Guest legacy of nightmares said:

i have tried this build although i dont have a full set ancient i still have 9 parts inluding ancient rings but the build seems to fail massively on damage i just dont know what i am doing wrong i guess back to the multishot build for me until i work out what is wrong

This build is all about stacking mobs until you can FoN. It's your biggest damage dealer by a mile. If you're not pulling off big FoNs, you won't succeed with this build unfortunately.

[Deadset 108]

To add to that, you have to keep in mind that every piece of gear that is NOT ancient is hurting the Leagcy of Nightmares bonus massively. A rule of thumb is to avoid pushing GRs until wearing 10 ancient pieces at the bare minimum, for any LoN spec.

[Guest darknoll]

ran the 100% stat priority gear given by how its on the list and you have about 5 crit chance(10 with paragon) while having 560% crit damage (610% with paragon) so unless you can keep yourself bellow 25% health your crits wont really be there http://www.d3planner.com/679215688

[SGTSNAFU 0]

First off I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time and effort to post this info. I would like to ask if you could possibly list some alternative gear for some of the slots. I do not have a Fortress Ballista so I am using a K'mar Tenclip in its place. Is that fine or would you recommend something else? Also, I do not have the Irontoe Mudsplitters yet. Using Ice Climbers because thats the only non set boots I have besides Firewalkers. Any suggestions on that slot as well? I am trying to recreate each DH set. I have 4 max level DHs and have 3 of sets complete. This set and the Shadow set I'm still working on. For ease of play the Marauder and the Hallowed sets are my favorite. This set as stated by others is proving troublesome due to getting used to the mechanics. Still can't seem to push past Grift 65 though. Well, thanks again. 

[Valks 2,375]

On 12/26/2016 at 4:14 PM, Guest darknoll said:

ran the 100% stat priority gear given by how its on the list and you have about 5 crit chance(10 with paragon) while having 560% crit damage (610% with paragon) so unless you can keep yourself bellow 25% health your crits wont really be there http://www.d3planner.com/679215688

Quoted from guide:

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The signature oddity of the build is the use of  Shi Mizu's Haori, allowing you to always crit as long as you stay below its unique property life range. The build drops any and all forms of life sustain, strives to take an initial burst of damage to get to  Shi Mizu's Haori's range, and remains there as long as it can (no grabbing of health globes or using health pots).

That is how it is meant to be.

[Valks 2,375]

On 1/6/2017 at 9:06 PM, SGTSNAFU said:

This set as stated by others is proving troublesome due to getting used to the mechanics. Still can't seem to push past Grift 65 though. Well, thanks again. 

It's an incredibly difficult playstyle to get used to, for sure. I personally hate it.

As for slot suggestions, simply your best stat-stick piece is ideal to fill until you get the required pieces.

[Guest Sketchykrow]

Umm Just out of curiosity, Isn't Fan of Knives and Vengeance on the same tree this season? I don't think you can have both of those talents?

[Orthios 271]

4 minutes ago, Guest Sketchykrow said:

Umm Just out of curiosity, Isn't Fan of Knives and Vengeance on the same tree this season? I don't think you can have both of those talents?

You can, though the option to be able to do so is disabled by default.  In the Options > Gameplay menu is an option called "Elective Mode" which allows you to put any skill on any action slot (1, 2, 3, 4, LMB, RMB) so long as it is not mutually exclusive with other abilities (such as Monk Mantras, which are explicitly 1 only).

[Guest Joofy]

Wouldn't it just be straight up better to roll the cube into the Obsidian ring which reduces cooldown by 1 second to a random skill? 

 

[Fiddybux 0]

This is a really interesting build @Deadset...thanks. I'm fairly new to D3RoS, and have only run one character (DH) using a Cluster Arrow build which is basically all about staying far away and full of health! This FoK build is quite the opposite, and that's why I love it.

Very hard to avoid collecting health globes, especially when they're next to a purple rift globe. Also, only good for solo unless everyone is avoiding health globes too. ;)

When you get in the zone though, the FoK with the 1200% stacked proc kicks butt. I've done a T8/35 straight off the bat, and gradually building as I learn the routine and get in the rhythm.

Since the gear I have is all I can find, and naturally I'm rolling them the best I can to avoid life / globes / armour etc., I've sometimes had to settle for thorns damage as the lesser of many evils.

I wonder if you think this is worthwhile for thorns? It is a sort of damage, but not ideal for DH I suppose. Better that that +8000 life per kill though, haha!

Also, how (apart from avoiding health) can I stay near death (under 23% in my case because of the roll for shi muzi) without dying?

Thanks very muchly!

 

Edited February 7, 2017 by Fiddybux
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[Guest Fjord]

Legacy of Nightmares isnt working currently....

[Valks 2,375]

On 1/22/2017 at 11:46 PM, Guest Joofy said:

Wouldn't it just be straight up better to roll the cube into the Obsidian ring which reduces cooldown by 1 second to a random skill? 

 

Why do you feel that would be better?

[Valks 2,375]

On 2/7/2017 at 10:41 PM, Fiddybux said:

I wonder if you think this is worthwhile for thorns? It is a sort of damage, but not ideal for DH I suppose. Better that that +8000 life per kill though, haha!

It's definitely not worth aiming for specifically - it doesn't really have that same Invoker's amazing synergy that the Crusader Thorns build does. If it's all you can get, go for it, but it's definitely not the best!

On 2/7/2017 at 10:41 PM, Fiddybux said:

Also, how (apart from avoiding health) can I stay near death (under 23% in my case because of the roll for shi muzi) without dying?

Picking mobs to stand near or cloak near can be useful. Choosing smaller mobs, standing in certain things on purpose (smaller hitting effects like taking 1 hit of poison etc.)

[Valks 2,375]

On 2/10/2017 at 3:32 PM, Guest Fjord said:

Legacy of Nightmares isnt working currently....

What do you mean?

[Guest Hello]

Why not use The Witching Hour for the belt slot? Does it do less damage than Thundergod's Vigour?

I'm aware that the attack speed roll drains your hatred faster, but that can be rolled away.

[Guest Aarc]

So despite having 0 healing stat and taking all healing abilities off of my follower my health seems to be continually increasing without picking up health globes. Thus I can't maintain the 23% hp to proc my Shi Meizu. Any ideas why?

[Deadset 108]

On 7/19/2017 at 9:07 AM, Guest Aarc said:

So despite having 0 healing stat and taking all healing abilities off of my follower my health seems to be continually increasing without picking up health globes. Thus I can't maintain the 23% hp to proc my Shi Meizu. Any ideas why?

Odd. You're sure you have no life on hit/regen paragons, or a random stat on gear fro LoH, life per kill, life regen?