Balance Druid 7.3

[Valks 2,375]

1 hour ago, Malgrimour said:

is that only pure ST? what about odyn for example?

You'd use Stellar there.

[Guest Moonkin]

With the mastery change, is it better to cast an empowered LS over unempowered SW on single target?

[Valks 2,375]

26 minutes ago, Guest Moonkin said:

With the mastery change, is it better to cast an empowered LS over unempowered SW on single target?

Yes, it is, assuming a decent level of Mastery. I don't know what the exact value would be.

[Guest imba]

Hi! i'm wondering about the stat priority on bosses with the "aoe based" talents where mastery don't affect the top dmg , dots.

[Valks 2,375]

On 1/30/2017 at 0:14 PM, Guest imba said:

Hi! i'm wondering about the stat priority on bosses with the "aoe based" talents where mastery don't affect the top dmg , dots.

On those AoE bosses, I would assume that Starfall is your main damage dealer, which Mastery does affect.

[Guest Imba]

5 hours ago, Blainie said:

On those AoE bosses, I would assume that Starfall is your main damage dealer, which Mastery does affect.

>Starfall is the main damage dealer , normally , with a 25-35% of dmg (depending on boss mostly) but dot's all together usually get 10-15% more of dmg done than starfall. I'm talking about bosses like aluriel, tychondrious, elisande or botanist where you just change the priority to starfall over SS in most of the fight (I'm assuming 2+targets for long periods of fight). That's why i was wondering about stat weight in this situation, i guess that if mastery don't affect +/- 40% of the damage done maybe is not that high over crit or vers.

Thanks !

[Valks 2,375]

On 1/31/2017 at 8:48 PM, Guest Imba said:

>Starfall is the main damage dealer , normally , with a 25-35% of dmg (depending on boss mostly) but dot's all together usually get 10-15% more of dmg done than starfall. I'm talking about bosses like aluriel, tychondrious, elisande or botanist where you just change the priority to starfall over SS in most of the fight (I'm assuming 2+targets for long periods of fight). That's why i was wondering about stat weight in this situation, i guess that if mastery don't affect +/- 40% of the damage done maybe is not that high over crit or vers.

Thanks !

Ah, I see. I would still expect you to go for Mastery - you can add the DoTs together, but you then also need to remember that Mastery affects Starsurge too, as well as your empowerment effects.

If you look at the top parse for Aluriel Mythic, their SFire and MFire do 32.81% of their damage. Sfall + Starsurge alone is already 36%, and that doesn't count any additional damage through empowerments.

For Tich, the top parse has SFire + MFire as 34.05% of the damage. Sfall + SS is at 34.23%. It has already won even without empowerment damage, again.

Hope this clears things up!

[Guest Possible Error]

Just a minor note.  On the Builds and Talents page, the description for Starlord in Tier 1 (Level 15) Talents states it reduces the cast times for Lunar Strike and Solar Wrath by 8%.  However, all of the tooltips on the same page, as well as in-game, say it reduces the cast times by 20%.

[Guest Thenoosh]

One thing I've noted, since getting Oneth's Intuition (legendary bracers), for talents 75, 90, and 100, using Soul of the Forest, Shooting Stars, and Stellar Drift, respectfully, seem to be the best overall build, in most cases. Starsurge and Starfall feed off each other, and I saw a pretty big dps boost from that. Celestial Alignment still gives a decent boost, granted not as much as Incarnation, solely. Plus the added astral power from Shooting Stars is a nice bonus too.

[Valks 2,375]

On 2/13/2017 at 11:07 PM, Guest Possible Error said:

Just a minor note.  On the Builds and Talents page, the description for Starlord in Tier 1 (Level 15) Talents states it reduces the cast times for Lunar Strike and Solar Wrath by 8%.  However, all of the tooltips on the same page, as well as in-game, say it reduces the cast times by 20%.

That most likely was just missed in an update - will get it sorted! Thanks :)

[Valks 2,375]

15 hours ago, Guest Thenoosh said:

One thing I've noted, since getting Oneth's Intuition (legendary bracers), for talents 75, 90, and 100, using Soul of the Forest, Shooting Stars, and Stellar Drift, respectfully, seem to be the best overall build, in most cases. Starsurge and Starfall feed off each other, and I saw a pretty big dps boost from that. Celestial Alignment still gives a decent boost, granted not as much as Incarnation, solely. Plus the added astral power from Shooting Stars is a nice bonus too.

Have you tried testing it out with Stellar Flare, just out of interest?

[Rok 0]

Thank you very much for the guide. There is one thing written that's confusing me a little: "Warrior of Elune should be used to burst down priority targets. Ideally, you should have 2 stacks of Lunar Empowerment active when you use it."

I'm still a beginner, so I find myself wondering: Do you mean "Ideally, you should have [at least] 2 stacks of Lunar Empowerment active when you use it", or is 2 stacks specifically intentional for a reason I don't know?

Edited February 17, 2017 by Rok

[Rok 0]

I guess find any mention of the Owlkin Frenzy, which makes Lunar Strike instant. I'd like to know where the instant Lunar Strike falls in the spell priority list. Number 2 after refreshing Moonfire, for example?

[pandreamon 0]

I was just wondering if we would see a 7.1.5 nighthold Bis list. I am assuming that EN gear isn't still our Bis anymore.

[Guest Update??]

This BiS list cannot be true now with NH out??

[Guest Killswitchii]

I think they have changed the amount of astral power being used per starsturge, the emerald dreamcatcher rotation without heroism/bloodlust is impossible now as you don't generate enough ap after 2 solar wraths to cast 3 starsurges, it use to work as i use to follow this rotation but now it does not seem to work im using blessing of allune aswell and incarnation still wont work 32% haste 35 artifact traits i lvl 877 still won't work i think you need to update this rotation. Even tried it with food.

[Guest BaddpsBoomy]

At ilvl 875, I should not be doing the poor amount of DPS that I am, maxing out at 200-300k. Is there going to be an update to the rotation, and builds? Haven't seen an update since before 7.1.5........

 

[Guest Memekin]

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In this tier, we recommend  Starlord as the default choice in raiding and dungeon content.

 Force of Nature is only worth taking in dungeons or world content, where the taunt of the Treants is useful.

 Warrior of Elune is currently not competitive and should not be taken

 

Absolutely incorrect. Starlord is great for single target, but for AoE/cleave when you're casting Starfall in place of Starsurge, Starlord is literally useless. I've found both Force of Nature (which does more damage than you would think) and Warrior of Elune (which is great for building AP to cast more Starfalls) to be viable for AoE situations, whether in raids or dungeons.

[Valks 2,375]

On 2/17/2017 at 2:34 AM, Rok said:

I'm still a beginner, so I find myself wondering: Do you mean "Ideally, you should have [at least] 2 stacks of Lunar Empowerment active when you use it", or is 2 stacks specifically intentional for a reason I don't know?

It's just at least.

[Valks 2,375]

On 2/17/2017 at 3:00 AM, Rok said:

I guess find any mention of the Owlkin Frenzy, which makes Lunar Strike instant. I'd like to know where the instant Lunar Strike falls in the spell priority list. Number 2 after refreshing Moonfire, for example?

It would be at the same priority as other Lunar Strikes.

[Valks 2,375]

On 2/18/2017 at 2:13 PM, pandreamon said:

I was just wondering if we would see a 7.1.5 nighthold Bis list. I am assuming that EN gear isn't still our Bis anymore.

I've put another note in, but I'm not sure if there will be an update prior to 7.2 (which will require a further update) - will do my best to get it done nonetheless!

[Valks 2,375]

On 2/18/2017 at 3:24 PM, Guest Update?? said:

This BiS list cannot be true now with NH out??

See above.

[Valks 2,375]

On 2/21/2017 at 1:08 AM, Guest Killswitchii said:

I think they have changed the amount of astral power being used per starsturge, the emerald dreamcatcher rotation without heroism/bloodlust is impossible now as you don't generate enough ap after 2 solar wraths to cast 3 starsurges, it use to work as i use to follow this rotation but now it does not seem to work im using blessing of allune aswell and incarnation still wont work 32% haste 35 artifact traits i lvl 877 still won't work i think you need to update this rotation. Even tried it with food.

Will get this looked into.

[Valks 2,375]

On 2/25/2017 at 1:56 AM, Guest BaddpsBoomy said:

At ilvl 875, I should not be doing the poor amount of DPS that I am, maxing out at 200-300k. Is there going to be an update to the rotation, and builds? Haven't seen an update since before 7.1.5........

As above, will get this looked into. Unless you have specific information though, I would perhaps recommend checking your logs for playstyle issues as well.

[Valks 2,375]

On 3/14/2017 at 4:06 AM, Guest Memekin said:

Absolutely incorrect. Starlord is great for single target, but for AoE/cleave when you're casting Starfall in place of Starsurge, Starlord is literally useless. I've found both Force of Nature (which does more damage than you would think) and Warrior of Elune (which is great for building AP to cast more Starfalls) to be viable for AoE situations, whether in raids or dungeons.

Will pass this on.