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On 7/18/2017 at 7:35 AM, Blainie said:

Darkmoon Deck: Immortality, Writhing Heart of Darkness, Unstable Arcanocrystal, Grotesque Statuette are all excellent defensively. 

I got an Arcanocrystal that proc'd 870 and with leech last time Jimmy was up, and I love it. 

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21 hours ago, DaltonIsPanda said:

I got an Arcanocrystal that proc'd 870 and with leech last time Jimmy was up, and I love it. 

It's an absolutely amazing trinket, regardless of what spec you get it with. I've got it on both of my tanks and love it

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We are currently in the process of updating all guides as required for the 7.3 release. Please be patient as we make the necessary changes. You can keep an eye on the changelog to know if the guide has been updated or not. 

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This guide has now been updated for the 7.3 patch. If you have any questions or comments, you can always ask them here. If you find any errors in the new changes to the guide, let me know and I'll get the writers to update it ASAP.

Good luck in the Shadows of Argus!

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8 hours ago, Guest BearyFriendly said:

is Darkmoon Deck: ImmortalityDarkmoon Deck: Immortality still strong enough to pick over higher ilvl trinkets? whats the tierlist of trinkets right now?

It's still very strong, yeah. I'd take it over most ToS trinkets at 900 defensively, but you don't really need it anymore. You can very easily run double DPS trinkets until Antorus.

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Hi,

got a question about the new guidesite for druids about the Netherlight Crucible. I dont understand der ilvl listet behind the perks. In other class guides, i.e. Holypala, there isnt such a listing. Can you pls explain it?

Thx for the guides anyway!

  1. Torment the Weak Icon Torment the Weak (+23 item levels);
  2. Secure in the Light Icon Secure in the Light and Infusion of Light Icon Infusion of Light (+22 item levels);
  3. Shadowbind Icon Shadowbind and Chaotic Darkness Icon Chaotic Darkness (+19 item levels);
  4. Shocklight Icon Shocklight and Dark Sorrows Icon Dark Sorrows (+6 item levels);
  5. Murderous Intent Icon Murderous Intent, Master of Shadows Icon Master of Shadows, and Light Speed Icon Light Speed (+5 item levels).

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On 9/11/2017 at 8:27 PM, Blainie said:

It's still very strong, yeah. I'd take it over most ToS trinkets at 900 defensively, but you don't really need it anymore. You can very easily run double DPS trinkets until Antorus.

Even though I don't need to I'm currently running a 930 Feverish CarapaceFeverish Carapace (which replaced the Darkmoon deck) and a 935 Shifting Cosmic SliverShifting Cosmic Sliver for my Druid.  But if I had like a 930+ Arcanocrystal I'd probably run that instead.

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23 hours ago, Guest HerbDaDerp said:

Hi,

got a question about the new guidesite for druids about the Netherlight Crucible. I dont understand der ilvl listet behind the perks. In other class guides, i.e. Holypala, there isnt such a listing. Can you pls explain it?

Thx for the guides anyway!

  1. Torment the Weak Icon Torment the Weak (+23 item levels);
  2. Secure in the Light Icon Secure in the Light and Infusion of Light Icon Infusion of Light (+22 item levels);
  3. Shadowbind Icon Shadowbind and Chaotic Darkness Icon Chaotic Darkness (+19 item levels);
  4. Shocklight Icon Shocklight and Dark Sorrows Icon Dark Sorrows (+6 item levels);
  5. Murderous Intent Icon Murderous Intent, Master of Shadows Icon Master of Shadows, and Light Speed Icon Light Speed (+5 item levels).

So, these are essentially there to not only rank the traits, but to help you with understanding how to compare different relics that have both been through the Netherlight. So if you are thinking of replacing a relic with a new one, but don't know if it is better when comparing the trait value, as well as crucible trait value, then you can use there item level markers.

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14 hours ago, DeathsDesign said:

Even though I don't need to I'm currently running a 930 Feverish CarapaceFeverish Carapace (which replaced the Darkmoon deck) and a 935 Shifting Cosmic SliverShifting Cosmic Sliver for my Druid.  But if I had like a 930+ Arcanocrystal I'd probably run that instead.

Yeah, your setup is likely better as long as you can efficiently use SCS. It'll depend on fight length etc., if you can't use it properly, DD:I becomes better than SCS. 

You're running a very defensive setup, though.

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5 hours ago, Blainie said:

Yeah, your setup is likely better as long as you can efficiently use SCS. It'll depend on fight length etc., if you can't use it properly, DD:I becomes better than SCS. 

You're running a very defensive setup, though.

very true, and a lot of times that SCS gives me that one extra Survival Instincts I need to get through the fight,  Also I'm starting to look at offensive stats/legendaries so I can put out more damage as well.

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10 minutes ago, DeathsDesign said:

very true, and a lot of times that SCS gives me that one extra Survival Instincts I need to get through the fight,  Also I'm starting to look at offensive stats/legendaries so I can put out more damage as well.

Yeah, as soon as you can properly get that extra SI, you're in good hands with SCS. It's just those fights when it doesn't actually change anything and you're basically just using a super weak stat stick :p

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9 hours ago, Blainie said:

So, these are essentially there to not only rank the traits, but to help you with understanding how to compare different relics that have both been through the Netherlight. So if you are thinking of replacing a relic with a new one, but don't know if it is better when comparing the trait value, as well as crucible trait value, then you can use there item level markers.

Ah ok. But why are there no defensive traits listed? Are they to weak compared to the offensive ones or am i missing somethig?

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On 9/14/2017 at 9:47 PM, Guest HerpDaDerp said:

Ah ok. But why are there no defensive traits listed? Are they to weak compared to the offensive ones or am i missing somethig?

Defensive traits mean nothing for the item level of the weapon. They contribute nothing to the DPS, so they aren't listed. The buff ones are listed because they are still something you want, despite not just giving flat DPS increases.

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Hey love the guide! Are you planning on making guardian dps guide? What stats are the best right now? And should I run with dps gear (not just trinkets) on mythic (non progress bosses) TOS?

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17 hours ago, Zjp said:

Hey love the guide! Are you planning on making guardian dps guide? What stats are the best right now? And should I run with dps gear (not just trinkets) on mythic (non progress bosses) TOS?

AFAIK you stack Haste and Crit for DPS.

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On 10/7/2017 at 12:45 PM, Zjp said:

But do mythic guilds require tanks to go offensive or should they stay defensive?

Depends entirely on the guild. Are you farming? Progressing? Do your DPS parse well? Do they parse poorly? Are your healers able to keep you alive if you go offensive? Do you have a higher number of healers for your group number?

There's a lot of factors that go into this.

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1 hour ago, Rudy199 said:

Why no info at all for best trinkets for Guardian?

I'll ask why and let you know - for actual trinket choices, look for the following:

These are all solid choices to look for if you need defensive trinkets. For DPS ones, you can just sim it.

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Guest Diab

On the Netherlight Crucible page:

...Sorry, what? I'm new to this but what do traits have to do with ilvls? (other than the first +5 ilvl traits of a relic) How are the ilvls in parantheses determined?

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On 11/21/2017 at 12:10 AM, Guest Diab said:

On the Netherlight Crucible page:

...Sorry, what? I'm new to this but what do traits have to do with ilvls? (other than the first +5 ilvl traits of a relic) How are the ilvls in parantheses determined?

The effectiveness of the trait adds a certain level of survivability or damage to your character. The trait's net worth in numbers is calculated and compared to a set increase in item level of your weapon, meaning bonus main stat, stamina, two secondaries and weapon damage. This is then added in brackets.

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11 hours ago, Blainie said:

The effectiveness of the trait adds a certain level of survivability or damage to your character. The trait's net worth in numbers is calculated and compared to a set increase in item level of your weapon, meaning bonus main stat, stamina, two secondaries and weapon damage. This is then added in brackets.

Oh, so it's just kind of a rating; not like picking up a trait actually boosts your artifact's ilvl by some amount. I think I understand better now, thank you.

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13 hours ago, Guest Diab said:

Oh, so it's just kind of a rating; not like picking up a trait actually boosts your artifact's ilvl by some amount. I think I understand better now, thank you.

Exactly. It's just intended as a way to rank things when comparing different relics to see which is best :)

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Guest Esca

I wonder why there is no mention about moonkin shoulders legendary. It comes as the second best both in terms of dps and survivability on any cleave fights due to bonus 8 rage galactic guardian provides when it procs at 2+ targets with this piece of gear.

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