Restoration Druid 7.3

[Orthios 271]

7 hours ago, Guest Kîba said:

This guide is so bad :D

This post is so useless.  Just saying something is bad without pointing out its flaws doesn't help at all, as how are we to discern for ourselves what you consider bad about it?

[Guest Roar @ Grim Batol EU]

'Power of the Archdruid' is currently heavily underperforming. It looks like a good choice but in reality it proccs much less frequently than 25% of the time, also 25% of Wild Growths even if it was truly that, is once every 40 seconds....weak, needs to be fixed and buffed significantly.

[Valks 2,375]

On 5.9.2016 at 2:05 PM, Guest Roar @ Grim Batol EU said:

'Power of the Archdruid' is currently heavily underperforming. It looks like a good choice but in reality it proccs much less frequently than 25% of the time, also 25% of Wild Growths even if it was truly that, is once every 40 seconds....weak, needs to be fixed and buffed significantly.

Our general artifact path seems to agree and puts it fairly far down on the priority. Thanks for confirming it though!

[Guest Lamba@ShadowsongEU]

Hey.

 

So I've played pala tanks and priest healer the past couple of expansions but stopped playing when the pre patch came out due to feeling more drawn by shadow than disc or holy, so now that I've finally fired up Legion, I went for my druid first. However, I can't really decided what's best and sadly, this guide sort of agrees with me. Higher output or lower mana cost?

 

Is option 1 really "the best", and how long do you guys think it'll take to get the full tree as a casual player? (Playing between 1 and 6 hours per days, put average at 2-3)

 

Good guide and good help, that aside. Thanks!

[Valks 2,375]

13 hours ago, Guest Lamba@ShadowsongEU said:

Is option 1 really "the best", and how long do you guys think it'll take to get the full tree as a casual player? (Playing between 1 and 6 hours per days, put average at 2-3)

Putting the 20/20 trait aside, it honestly doesn't take long to fill the tree. You will find a HUGE amount of AP at max level, especially after researching the Artifact Knowledge. With your playing hours, you could probably max it in less than 2 weeks.

[Orthios 271]

41 minutes ago, Blainie said:

Putting the 20/20 trait aside, it honestly doesn't take long to fill the tree. You will find a HUGE amount of AP at max level, especially after researching the Artifact Knowledge. With your playing hours, you could probably max it in less than 2 weeks.

Maxing the artifact will take a lot longer than 2 weeks.  Getting the first 20 traits will take ~3 weeks and getting 34/34 traits will take ~14, and that's given you do everything you can per week (a whole lot of world quests, daily heroic, all mythical) but doesn't account for treasure drops from rates of chests.

source: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11xQCzhiVM9gTZkUsu1UNs7z4dpwHpRQSUUZySY7xLv0/htmlview?sle=true#

[Valks 2,375]

On 11/09/2016 at 0:40 PM, Orthios said:

Maxing the artifact will take a lot longer than 2 weeks.  Getting the first 20 traits will take ~3 weeks and getting 34/34 traits will take ~14, and that's given you do everything you can per week (a whole lot of world quests, daily heroic, all mythical) but doesn't account for treasure drops from rates of chests.

source: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11xQCzhiVM9gTZkUsu1UNs7z4dpwHpRQSUUZySY7xLv0/htmlview?sle=true#

Orthios is right, my bad. I was still in Beta mode, using numbers I had for the order hall guides that factored in a LOT of research. Thanks for the correction, I just didn't think!

[Guest Seravon-barthilas]

One very important skill you have not mentioned. Solar Wrath is a non mana consuming attack that also heals for a %age of the damage done (heal can range from below or over the initial heal of a regrowth) this provides resto druids with amazing damage and the much needed mana manipulation and also provides the class the ability to cope with light bursts of damage. This will also provide the group or raid with another dps if dps is needed on ads or bosses. Due to solar Wrath not consuming mana this allows the class to better deal with the 'oh im out of mana and can no longer heal' issues from overuse and mismanagement of spells.

[xeonio 0]

26 minutes ago, Guest Seravon-barthilas said:

One very important skill you have not mentioned. Solar Wrath is a non mana consuming attack that also heals for a %age of the damage done (heal can range from below or over the initial heal of a regrowth) this provides resto druids with amazing damage and the much needed mana manipulation and also provides the class the ability to cope with light bursts of damage. This will also provide the group or raid with another dps if dps is needed on ads or bosses. Due to solar Wrath not consuming mana this allows the class to better deal with the 'oh im out of mana and can no longer heal' issues from overuse and mismanagement of spells.

Wrong expansion. It was changed in Legion.

[Valks 2,375]

6 hours ago, xeonio said:

Wrong expansion. It was changed in Legion.

Was this a baseline ability or was it added via a passive/talent/glyph?

[Pandacho 286]

3 hours ago, Blainie said:

Was this a baseline ability or was it added via a passive/talent/glyph?

I believe they are talking about Dream of Cenarius talent in T6 in WoD.

[Valks 2,375]

Just now, Pandacho said:

I believe they are talking about Dream of Cenarius talent in T6 in WoD.

Ah, good catch. Thanks! As you can tell, not a RDruid player.

[Guest Dangrod]

When I'm testing on a target dummy, I seem to be getting benefit from mastery up to atleast 5 HOTs instead of just 3.  am I missing something? Can anyone confirm this?

[Pandacho 286]

12 hours ago, Guest Dangrod said:

When I'm testing on a target dummy, I seem to be getting benefit from mastery up to atleast 5 HOTs instead of just 3.  am I missing something? Can anyone confirm this?

Well, yes. I found this difference too - the database (wowdb and wowhead tooltips) shows this:

while the in-game tooltip shows this:

 

People are reporting a non-restricted to 3 buffs healing increase, same as all the big resto guides I checked.

So... I don't know, maybe a tooltip mistake or the opposite: the free rise was unintended and will be fixed.

[lalamonq 0]

My  Naglfar Fare ilvl 825 trinket does twice as much healing (including the absorption) as compared to my ilvl 850  Concave Reflecting Lens .... just a heads up, as you've put Naglfar as a secondary option. I'd put it on top.

Edited September 16, 2016 by lalamonq

[Guest ThjokeR]

So I have a lvl 80 druid healer, what would be the best way to do the artifacts?, just pick the healer artifact and run balance?

[Cheze 6]

select whatever spec you want to use to level when you do the intro quest at 100, then pick up the resto artifact at 102 when the rest of the quests open up.  If you want to you can save the AP you accumulate from 100 - 102 to use on ghanir when you get it, but the amount will be pretty inconsequential so there's no real need to bother with that.

[Cheze 6]

On 7/18/2016 at 9:41 AM, Manaleaf said:

Hello, I am the Author of Resto Druid Stat Weights. A Weak Aura that computes the value of our secondary Stat Weights in real time as you play. While I am sure the Stat Weights here are designed as blanket values, the RDSW Weak Aura can show you the objective value of your secondary stats for both all healing, and boss-only healing.

Please see this thread for download information.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20743575960?page=31#601

In my personal experience I have found that versatility almost never out-performs mastery. On select encounters with I:ToL and Cult builds I have seen mastery jump around from 1st to 3rd. 
With SotF builds I have also seen crit out perform haste, but it is not consistent.

If you download the tiny addon in the link above, RDSW will record your session to a lua file. I am looking for volunteers with Beta Access and who are actively raiding on the beta to deposit their records in the google drive posted in the link. This is 100% optional, but the more records we compile, the better an image of our real stat values we can get.

Please visit the link above for more information and Feel free to add Leaf#1485 if you have any questions.

is this still working/up-to-date?  Your beta forum link is dead and the wowace page doesn't have a working link to the WA anymore

[Orthios 271]

2 hours ago, Cheze said:

is this still working/up-to-date?  Your beta forum link is dead and the wowace page doesn't have a working link to the WA anymore

It is, you can get it from here: https://wago.io/VkuAT-pHb

[Valks 2,375]

On 9/16/2016 at 6:01 PM, lalamonq said:

My  Naglfar Fare ilvl 825 trinket does twice as much healing (including the absorption) as compared to my ilvl 850  Concave Reflecting Lens .... just a heads up, as you've put Naglfar as a secondary option. I'd put it on top.

Thanks for pointing this out, we'll take a look and re-assess if need be!

[Guest Gracemore]

On 16/09/2016 at 9:31 AM, Pandacho said:

Well, yes. I found this difference too - the database (wowdb and wowhead tooltips) shows this:

while the in-game tooltip shows this:

 

People are reporting a non-restricted to 3 buffs healing increase, same as all the big resto guides I checked.

So... I don't know, maybe a tooltip mistake or the opposite: the free rise was unintended and will be fixed.

I can confirm this as well.

I have a question about thhis. Is Germination and Efloresence counted as a buff to your Mastery stacking, as I senn different answers on this? If they both count that means that based on talent choises you can have up to 7 stacks of M:H on a single target (Rejuv, Regrowth, Scenario Wand, Life Bloom, Germination, Wild Growth and Efflorescence). Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[Valks 2,375]

5 hours ago, Guest Gracemore said:

I can confirm this as well.

I have a question about thhis. Is Germination and Efloresence counted as a buff to your Mastery stacking, as I senn different answers on this? If they both count that means that based on talent choises you can have up to 7 stacks of M:H on a single target (Rejuv, Regrowth, Scenario Wand, Life Bloom, Germination, Wild Growth and Efflorescence). Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Germination does, I'm not certain about Efflorescence though.

[Guest Mitrez]

5 hours ago, Guest Gracemore said:

I can confirm this as well.

I have a question about thhis. Is Germination and Efloresence counted as a buff to your Mastery stacking, as I senn different answers on this? If they both count that means that based on talent choises you can have up to 7 stacks of M:H on a single target (Rejuv, Regrowth, Scenario Wand, Life Bloom, Germination, Wild Growth and Efflorescence). Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Efflorescence doesnt count, but the Hot effect that gets added through the Spring Blossoms talent does. Germination also counts. But since you can't have both the Germination and the Spring Blossom talents, the max. amount would be 6.

Scenario Wand = cenarion ward, also counts but ofc only the Hot portion of it (so after it has procced from taking damage)

 

[Valks 2,375]

Just now, Guest Mitrez said:

Efflorescence doesnt count, but the Hot effect that gets added through the Spring Blossoms talent does. Germination also counts. But since you can't have both the Germination and the Spring Blossom talents, the max. amount would be 6.

Scenario Wand = cenarion ward, also counts but ofc only the Hot portion of it (so after it has procced from taking damage)

Looks like we just posted at the same time! Thanks for clearing up the other half of the question that I couldn't answer.

[Guest Mitrez]

12 hours ago, Guest Mitrez said:

Efflorescence doesnt count, but the Hot effect that gets added through the Spring Blossoms talent does. Germination also counts. But since you can't have both the Germination and the Spring Blossom talents, the max. amount would be 6.

Scenario Wand = cenarion ward, also counts but ofc only the Hot portion of it (so after it has procced from taking damage)

Forgot about cultivation, which also counts! So that actually makes it 7 ;)