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  On 6/13/2017 at 10:48 PM, Guest PocketFox said:

It looks like the info about Wild Call and One with the Pack is inaccurate; they actually rolled back the nerfs to it before 7.2.5 ever left PTR, and Wild Call still resets the CD of Dire Beast/Dire Frenzy completely, while One with the Pack still only has a 30% extra chance to trigger it.

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Where in the guide is this mentioned? The guide has been updated to include the most accurate, up to date information.

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  On 6/14/2017 at 3:34 AM, Luthixx said:

Where in the guide is this mentioned? The guide has been updated to include the most accurate, up to date information.

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It was removed today at 2.46 o'clock european central time. But info was there and it was wrong.

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  On 6/14/2017 at 7:03 AM, Olli2k said:

It was removed today at 2.46 o'clock european central time. But info was there and it was wrong.

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Indeed it was. Thanks for reporting it guys, Azor was on top of it before I could pass it on :)

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  On 6/14/2017 at 5:42 PM, Blainie said:

Indeed it was. Thanks for reporting it guys, Azor was on top of it before I could pass it on :)

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On the Spell Summary page section 5 it still lists Wild Call has a chance to reduce DF/DB CD by 3 seconds as opposed to reset. 

Also on the introduction page section 2 are the set bonus the live values? I thought they nerfed them before the patch went live? 

Also to confirm with the latest update we should use the Stomp/OWTP build instead of DF and Bestial Fury ST build until we lose the T19 2p bonus? How much crit should we aim for for this to be optimal?

Thanks again for these guides?

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So we should be running the build (in heroic TOS) featured in section 1.1 until we replace our T-19 2 piece?  Which Tier 1 legendary combo is being favored? I got the chest today and have the shoulders and belt already. Thanks! Your guides are life savers. 

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  On 6/14/2017 at 9:54 PM, Guest DrakanFire said:

On the Spell Summary page section 5 it still lists Wild Call has a chance to reduce DF/DB CD by 3 seconds as opposed to reset. 

Also on the introduction page section 2 are the set bonus the live values? I thought they nerfed them before the patch went live? 

Also to confirm with the latest update we should use the Stomp/OWTP build instead of DF and Bestial Fury ST build until we lose the T19 2p bonus? How much crit should we aim for for this to be optimal?

Thanks again for these guides?

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1. Thanks for picking up on that, it's been changed!

2. Yes, it was nerfed down to 15% - still to be updated

3. It's individual preference - I personally like it because there's very little downtime and has fantastic potential DPS and gets even better for 2-3 targets and short lived adds. Aim for around 30% crit, up to 35% is the best option but will provide less effect after 35%. But yes, after ToS hits unless you can get the new legendary ring it's not viable, and T19 is a great option to hold onto (especially if it titanforges well) until you get into heroic and mythic ToS.

  On 6/14/2017 at 11:10 PM, Guest Kennedie said:

So we should be running the build (in heroic TOS) featured in section 1.1 until we replace our T-19 2 piece?  Which Tier 1 legendary combo is being favored? I got the chest today and have the shoulders and belt already. Thanks! Your guides are life savers. 

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Realistically, you won't need the belt if you're running the Stomp build and have around 30-35% crit - you'll have enough procs to keep your focus up during BW without it. I would run the chest and shoulders if that won't break your 4pc.

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Is there any number of targets where it's better to just cast more Multishots over Kill Command?

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  On 6/14/2017 at 9:54 PM, Guest DrakanFire said:

Also on the introduction page section 2 are the set bonus the live values? I thought they nerfed them before the patch went live? 

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Passed this on.

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  On 6/14/2017 at 11:53 PM, DaltonIsPanda said:

Is there any number of targets where it's better to just cast more Multishots over Kill Command?

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Usually about 4+ is when you want to just start hitting Multishot - Surge of the Stormgod does more damage here combined with Beast Cleave to make up for Kill Command.

2 targets isn't really even worth multishotting during BW, and 3 targets you definitely want to still be using Kill Command.

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  On 6/15/2017 at 3:25 PM, Luthixx said:

Usually about 4+ is when you want to just start hitting Multishot - Surge of the Stormgod does more damage here combined with Beast Cleave to make up for Kill Command.

2 targets isn't really even worth multishotting during BW, and 3 targets you definitely want to still be using Kill Command.

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Thanks!

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Guest Sul

Will it be viable to run 2 x t19 and 4 x t20 with legendaries in non tier slots ? I have most non tier legendaries covered 

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  On 6/16/2017 at 1:40 PM, Guest Sul said:

Will it be viable to run 2 x t19 and 4 x t20 with legendaries in non tier slots ? I have most non tier legendaries covered 

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For a while, yes. After you move into heroic where the ilvl starts to get above 15-20 ilvls you won't really be able to hang onto T19 bonuses unless the items you have are titanforged above 915.

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Guest Choptop

My hunter is still very much in the gearing up process. He's currently sitting at 885 ilvl, and the only legendary I have is the bracers. I don't have any of the tier pieces either.

My stats aren't great at all. I have 26% crit, 10 % haste, and 70% mastery. Should I still be running the talent set up from 7.2 or be switching to the Stomp / OwtP build? I've seen it mentioned in regards to ppl with the tier pieces, but I wasn't sure what to do as I have never had those and have no BiS legendaries.

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How is The Mantle of Command still one of the best legendary when it only grants your pet 5% increased damage for 8 second after using Dire Frenzy? when one of the worst legendaries -> The Apex Predator's Claw gives your pet all passive abilities and 5% damage increase all the time, not just 8 seconds.

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  On 6/17/2017 at 2:38 AM, Guest Choptop said:

My hunter is still very much in the gearing up process. He's currently sitting at 885 ilvl, and the only legendary I have is the bracers. I don't have any of the tier pieces either.

My stats aren't great at all. I have 26% crit, 10 % haste, and 70% mastery. Should I still be running the talent set up from 7.2 or be switching to the Stomp / OwtP build? I've seen it mentioned in regards to ppl with the tier pieces, but I wasn't sure what to do as I have never had those and have no BiS legendaries.

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Don't stress too much about your build - but the zoo build is quite fun so try and enjoy it while you can!

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  On 6/18/2017 at 10:28 AM, Guest smitten said:

How is The Mantle of Command still one of the best legendary when it only grants your pet 5% increased damage for 8 second after using Dire Frenzy? when one of the worst legendaries -> The Apex Predator's Claw gives your pet all passive abilities and 5% damage increase all the time, not just 8 seconds.

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Because that 5% applies to ALL your pet damage, including Hati & AMoC - whereas the ring only gave 5% damage to your main pet.

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Hey, i try build with Soul of the HuntmasterSoul of the Huntmaster and Roar of the Seven LionsRoar of the Seven Lions. Talents 2-1-1-1-1-1-2. But stats priority is different from the standard beast mastery.

Raidbot source:

( Pawn: v1: "Comando - Beast Mastery (Raidbots)": Class=Hunter, Spec=BeastMastery, Agility=23.75, CritRating=30.2, HasteRating=25.2, MasteryRating=23.69, Versatility=20.05 )

It is true?

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  On 6/19/2017 at 12:44 PM, Comando said:

It is true?

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General stat values are not an exact science. If you have simmed your own character and got a different result, then it likely that your character's own result is correct. Weights will always change depending on the character being tested and their current stat values.

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  On 6/19/2017 at 12:44 PM, Comando said:

Hey, i try build with Soul of the HuntmasterSoul of the Huntmaster and Roar of the Seven LionsRoar of the Seven Lions. Talents 2-1-1-1-1-1-2. But stats priority is different from the standard beast mastery.

Raidbot source:

( Pawn: v1: "Comando - Beast Mastery (Raidbots)": Class=Hunter, Spec=BeastMastery, Agility=23.75, CritRating=30.2, HasteRating=25.2, MasteryRating=23.69, Versatility=20.05 )

It is true?

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You're running the crit build, therefore crit will sim highest for you. In order to play that build optimally you'll need at least 30, if not 35% crit.

BM is normally a very iffy spec to start with, with agi almost always being the most important stat, but the pawn string on the guides here are simply a starting point - not gospel. So continuously sim your own characters and it'll give you more accurate pawn strings.

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  On 6/19/2017 at 5:03 PM, Sorst said:

what does the "A/C915" mean in the tier comparison?

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Arcway/Court of Stars set at 915 ilvl, they give great stats and their proc is undeniably amazing.

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Hi just a quick question for Azor or anyone else that can confirm really, the updated relic sheet, which shows jaws of thunder as basically best now im pretty sure pre patch 7.2.5 this was identical in value to pack leader, but now seems jaws of thunder has pulled ahead, is this accurate now?

Reason i ask as and call it weird rng but ive a storm and arcane relic, that reward the exact same ilevel sitting in my bags that buff jaws of thunder and an arcane and storm relic currently equipped that buff pack leader, so going by that then i would gain an upgrade according to the spreadsheet?

Also just to throw this into the mix, i simmed 10k higher using aspect of the beast as opposed to killer cobra, bendak has already confirmed this is correct from eye of the beast, whilst i dont really need confirmation on this  (as its already been provided) its just to let other hunters know that killer cobra may not automatically be top dps and you should realy try a few things out.

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  On 6/20/2017 at 2:39 PM, Guest Straegen said:

Hi just a quick question for Azor or anyone else that can confirm really, the updated relic sheet, which shows jaws of thunder as basically best now im pretty sure pre patch 7.2.5 this was identical in value to pack leader, but now seems jaws of thunder has pulled ahead, is this accurate now?

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This was very recently updated by Azor, so I assume it is up-to-date, yes :)

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  On 6/20/2017 at 2:39 PM, Guest Straegen said:

Hi just a quick question for Azor or anyone else that can confirm really, the updated relic sheet, which shows jaws of thunder as basically best now im pretty sure pre patch 7.2.5 this was identical in value to pack leader, but now seems jaws of thunder has pulled ahead, is this accurate now?

Reason i ask as and call it weird rng but ive a storm and arcane relic, that reward the exact same ilevel sitting in my bags that buff jaws of thunder and an arcane and storm relic currently equipped that buff pack leader, so going by that then i would gain an upgrade according to the spreadsheet?

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Pack got nerfed from 5% down to 3%, whereas jaws only got nerfed from 10% to 8%, so 20% reduction as opposed to 40%, making it significantly stronger.

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