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Sorry about de noob question but what is the difference from Meme Build to Trick? And in a boss fight it's better to use A Murder of Crows instead of Volley?

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2 hours ago, Guest Imrahill said:

Sorry about de noob question but what is the difference from Meme Build to Trick? And in a boss fight it's better to use A Murder of Crows instead of Volley?

It's all said in the guide, all it takes is to take a look.

A Murder of Crows Icon A Murder of Crows is the best choice for pure single-target encounters. Volley Icon Volley is so close on a single-target that it only takes a bit of cleave in the fight for it to pull ahead.

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On 1/30/2017 at 1:43 PM, Guest Imrahill said:

Sorry about de noob question but what is the difference from Meme Build to Trick? And in a boss fight it's better to use A Murder of Crows instead of Volley?

As said above, everything you have asked is listed in the guide.

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21 hours ago, Vuda said:

It's all said in the guide, all it takes is to take a look.

Thanks for helping to answer :)

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Guest Derek

My apologies if this has been asked before but is there a certain breakpoint for the CoS/Arcway set? I've recently obtained a pair of bracers with a socket 905 ilvl which according to pawn is 20% upgrade compared to my 885 Arcway bracers, also obtained a 900 pair of shoulders which are 14% upgrade to my 880 CoS shoulders, I know from experience the set is really really good and it would be a shame to have to replace them. I'm just wondering if there is in fact a point where you say: "Ok this amount of upgrade for this or that piece will be enough to break the set"

Great guide as always, much love.

Derek

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Why are all the simulations of the trickshot and true aim builds removed in place of meme build?

The difference in simulations between meme and trickshot are negligible and sometimes depending on legendary (warbelt) trickshot is better.

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16 hours ago, Mungbean said:

Why are all the simulations of the trickshot and true aim builds removed in place of meme build?

The difference in simulations between meme and trickshot are negligible and sometimes depending on legendary (warbelt) trickshot is better.

Not everyone has warbelt so I guess no-legendary-sim with meme build instead of bis-legendary-sim with Trick Shot might be useful for more people.

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Under Tier 7 it says about Trick Shot  " provides the best single-target, and powerful stacked AoE. With the War Belt of the Sentinel Army Icon War Belt of the Sentinel Armyespecially, it is extremely powerful for cleave, but it is not very bursty outside Trueshot. It is the  default choice with the belt, but should only be used without the belt for pure single-target encounters. ".

I don't follow this at all - why should a talent intended to spread damage to nearby mobs only be used for single-target encounters?  What use does it have single-target?

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On 1/31/2017 at 8:18 PM, Guest Derek said:

"Ok this amount of upgrade for this or that piece will be enough to break the set"

Best way to know will be through simcraft. You can equip the two different sets of gear and just sim both.

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On 1/31/2017 at 9:34 PM, Mungbean said:

Why are all the simulations of the trickshot and true aim builds removed in place of meme build?

Answered, above, just confirming. 

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9 hours ago, Vuda said:

Not everyone has warbelt so I guess no-legendary-sim with meme build instead of bis-legendary-sim with Trick Shot might be useful for more people.

Thanks for helping to answer :)

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5 hours ago, Clin said:

I don't follow this at all - why should a talent intended to spread damage to nearby mobs only be used for single-target encounters?  What use does it have single-target?

If there is no other Vulnerable target, it buffs your next AS for 15% damage in ST.

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For single target simulations I was under the impression that patient sniper and trickshot are the go to talents and a valid build.  That was why I was asking why they were removed from simulations.

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Guest SweetMrGibs

Hi Azor - not the best at Simcraft, so looking for a bit of advice... which do you think is better - 880 Convergence of Fate with a Socket, or 885 Aran's relaxed Ruby?

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13 hours ago, Guest SweetMrGibs said:

Hi Azor - not the best at Simcraft, so looking for a bit of advice... which do you think is better - 880 Convergence of Fate with a Socket, or 885 Aran's relaxed Ruby?

Convergence is the best trinket you can get, so... And Aran's got nerfed to the ground so don't bother with it. To be honest if you have read the guide you would know all this :P

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Guest Souin

Hey guys!

 

Quick question concerning trinkets:

Im playing Marksman and got the legendary trinket. As my second trinket I am currently using the Elisande Trinket. According to the sims, there is (for me) no better trinkets right now. Is that true? Unless convergence of the fates drops on higher itemlvl.

Thank you!

 

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Guest SweetMrGibs

Thanks Vuda.  I was aware Aran's got nerfed, but the issue is, is that the version of Aran's listed is 860 whilst mine is 885.  Therefore, unless I've missed something, it's not possible to use the guide to determine how it compares directly to the 880 Convergence of Fate.  I was 99% certain that it would be a big dps increase, but felt it was worth the time to ask.

 

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On 2/2/2017 at 5:02 AM, Mungbean said:

For single target simulations I was under the impression that patient sniper and trickshot are the go to talents and a valid build.  That was why I was asking why they were removed from simulations.

I'll ask Azor if there is a specific reason or if he plans to re-add them.

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16 hours ago, Guest SweetMrGibs said:

Hi Azor - not the best at Simcraft, so looking for a bit of advice... which do you think is better - 880 Convergence of Fate with a Socket, or 885 Aran's relaxed Ruby?

Mentioned above, but the trinket list shows Aran's way down there. CoF is far better. 

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3 hours ago, Vuda said:

Convergence is the best trinket you can get, so... And Aran's got nerfed to the ground so don't bother with it. To be honest if you have read the guide you would know all this :P

Thanks for helping to answer :)

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2 hours ago, Guest Souin said:

Im playing Marksman and got the legendary trinket. As my second trinket I am currently using the Elisande Trinket. According to the sims, there is (for me) no better trinkets right now. Is that true? Unless convergence of the fates drops on higher itemlvl.

Yep.

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2 hours ago, Guest SweetMrGibs said:

Thanks Vuda.  I was aware Aran's got nerfed, but the issue is, is that the version of Aran's listed is 860 whilst mine is 885.  Therefore, unless I've missed something, it's not possible to use the guide to determine how it compares directly to the 880 Convergence of Fate.  I was 99% certain that it would be a big dps increase, but felt it was worth the time to ask.

If you take Aran's 860, you can generally add about 1k per 5 item levels (this is not an exact formula, just something to guess by). It's still way far off. Glad to see that you got the answer you needed anyway. If you have any more questions, just ask :)

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On 2/2/2017 at 5:02 AM, Mungbean said:

For single target simulations I was under the impression that patient sniper and trickshot are the go to talents and a valid build.  That was why I was asking why they were removed from simulations.

OK, so. The reason the ST simulations are using the meme build is because meme build is the best for the majority of fights in NH, as well as M+. There might be Trick Shot sims coming in the future anyway, for those that want them.

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