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Karazhan trinkets are not yet implemented in SimCraft.

 

Aran's Relaxing Ruby is super overpowered. At 860 it is approximately 12k DPS on a single-target from the proc alone - and as you can imagine this makes it extremely good if you compare its proc potency to something like Naraxas' Spiked Tongue. I cannot sim it yet, this is based on ingame testing.

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Guest Ethereal

Hey Azortharion, 

 

At some points in boss fights I find myself without any Sidewinder charges and no Windburst to refresh Vulnerable on the target. I usually will cast an Aimed Shot in the downtime because I hate sitting at 150 Focus even though the damage of Aimed Shot without Vulnerability makes me cringe. 

 

Do you think I need to work more on my conservation of abilities that can proc Vulnerable or do you think its natural to end up in that kind of position during a boss fight?

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Hey Azor,

with Legion launch I swapped to hunter and I've been following your guide since then with great success.

However I started to sim my own char a while ago, because I wanted to figure out if two other items could replace my lower ilvl Arcway mail set without a dmg loss. Yesterday two items dropped I can replace the set and get a little more dps.

Fine. Now simcraft scales my values a bit different. Before it was something like

9.47 Mastery > 8.13 Agi > 8.11 Haste > 7.87 Vers > 7.82 Crit

but recently changed into

9.79 Mastery > 8.06 Crit > 7.88 Agi > 7.86 Vers > 7.56 Haste

I have 5557 Haste on gear and it looks like I've reached a softcap or something? I thought there were no caps anymore.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/blackhand/Broktor/simple

 

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It is not a softcap, just means you got a fuckton of Haste which naturally reduces its value compared to other stats. You increase the others a bit and Haste jumps back up and so on.

If you did not follow my video on how to sim stat weights I'd suspect your weights are incorrect though, since the video has a lot of important but non-standard knowledge.

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Guest fta

for me after 7.1 sim craft (1target) looks like this  Agility=10.40, CritRating=10.50, HasteRating=12.49, MasteryRating=12.76, Versatility=10.77, Dps=31.82 )

Agi is last now witch is wired 879 ilvl btw

 

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Guest guestwho

hi, so i know that the relaxing ruby from Karazhan is pretty op, what about the construct core? i'm comparing an 890 core to a 855+socket tongue

thanks

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Guest MM Hunter

I've got those four trinkets atm:

Bloodthirsty Instict @ilvl 870 wf
Ethereal Urn @ilvl 885 wf + socket
Aran's Relaxing Ruby @ilvl 860
Stormsinger Fulmination Charge @ilvl 860 wf

I don't know which two I shell use. Especially Aran's Relaxing Ruby is proccing so random and not working with the current simucraft version. But otherwise there is a chest what buffs the ppm for this trinket for about 30%.
My feeling says I should use Bloodthirsty Instict and Ethereal Urn. But maybe Aran's Relaxing Ruby is in aoe fights the better coice.

Do you have a recommendation for me?

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Guest Skybaert

Is Swarming Plaguehive in the trinket BIS list an error? Seeing that it's not on hunter loot tables?

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Guest trinkets

i got a 875 Bough of corruption it gives 1024 mastery but does it proc with hunters?

if it doesnt i hava a 865 swarming plagehive and a 825 devilsaurs bite wich one is better? (recently skada doesnt show any dmg for swarming plagehive does it still work?)

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Guest rasd
On 27.10.2016 at 5:40 PM, Azortharion said:

Karazhan trinkets are not yet implemented in SimCraft.

 

Aran's Relaxing Ruby is super overpowered. At 860 it is approximately 12k DPS on a single-target from the proc alone - and as you can imagine this makes it extremely good if you compare its proc potency to something like Naraxas' Spiked Tongue. I cannot sim it yet, this is based on ingame testing.

At Your simulations it doesn't look that good

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Guest Đaxx

Hey

Can anyone her explain how "Windrunning" is working ? it seems a bit weird one. or is it just RNG, and uncontrollable ?

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Hi, i just checked ur trinket sims and i have 1 question, what do u mean with Aran's Relaxing Ruby "/W SET "  ?
And i have to say i dont understand the Aran's Relaxing Ruby 860 rank as a single target trinket, i  tried mine (875 ilvl), and its pretty good, even better than the tongue. Should i use the Aran during fight like Ursoc mm ?
For example, on most of the logs i saw, with ursoc MM, Rancid Maw does 3.5m to 4.5 milion damage, and again as an example during one try with my guild ( we wiped at 3%) Flame Wreath did 10.5 milion. So does the sims cant correctly rank it or did i get lucky with crits and hits ?
Thank u for ur time.

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All of the "linked" mentions of Vulnerable are now broken links, no longer showing a tooltip.  Dunno if that's a WoWDB problem or an Icy Veins problem.  Other linked spells (Aimed Shot, Marking Targets, etc) continue to wokr.

 

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Guest razhem87

Hello Azor you think of  Potion of Prolonged Power  is more useful than one that tips in your guide? just being out in Karazan patch does not know yet if thou have tested or not

Tanks for Answer

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Guest Quitte

Hey Azor,

I'm using Simcraft not so much. The latest results are a little bit confusing in my opinion. So i want to ask you to "check" my results. I've got iLvl 873 (http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/onyxia/Quitte/advanced).

Simcraft will give me that Pawn String:

( Pawn: v1: "Quitte": Agility=8.29, CritRating=8.11, HasteRating=9.38, MasteryRating=10.06, Versatility=8.43, Dps=28.38 )

This means my Stat Priority is Mastery>Haste>Vers>Agi>Cit.

Is Agi really so weak? Is there a Moment, when Agi comes better. I've got the Impression, ihave to sim my char every time, i get a new item. Could this be or i'm doing wrong.

Sry, but english is not my main language.

Greetings Quitte

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Guest WeenBean

Hey why did Aran's Relaxing Ruby drop so much in the sim update? It went from being I think second or third best to it's current placing? Where does an 870 ruby stack up with and w/o the set?

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Guest Guest

I think youve simmed the 3 targets trinkets incorrectly/differently, the dps is currently lower than 1 target (and dropped by over 100k for most trinkets).

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Guest Drounox

Hi Azron, ty for making the guilde and answering the questions here.

Do you have any on thoughs on The Devilsaur's Bite?

Mine is ilvl 865 and gives 986 mastery and procs for 219.745 dmg.

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Guest who

hi, with Zevrim's Hunger, do you try to space out the proc after the initial MS for better Vulnerable uptime or just fire the proc off right away?

thanks

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When you say Agi/Mastery trinket from WQ, what sort of iLevel are you talking about for it to sim that high?

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Guest Quatermain
6 hours ago, Hack said:

When you say Agi/Mastery trinket from WQ, what sort of iLevel are you talking about for it to sim that high?

All trinkets are simmed at 850 ilvl unless otherwise specified.

 

7 hours ago, Guest who said:

hi, with Zevrim's Hunger, do you try to space out the proc after the initial MS for better Vulnerable uptime or just fire the proc off right away?

thanks

Space them out if you can do so comfortably, but be careful to get it off before hunter's mark falls off. If you've got more procs and/or barrage coming off that pretty much means right away.

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Guest Fatzgrind

So I am a bit confused here, is the Aran's Relaxing Ruby any good now or rather meh?

I have a 890 Twising Wind and the Bloodthirsty Instics 865, but now I got the Ruby with a additional socket.

I guess there is no worth in exchanging one of my trinkets, as they seem quite OP to me..right? 

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