Outlaw Rogue 7.3

[RiskbreakerBG 0]

Hey, nice guide. I have a question thou - If I use Slice and Dice, does Haste's weight go below crit's?

[Carrn 284]

14 hours ago, RiskbreakerBG said:

Hey, nice guide. I have a question thou - If I use Slice and Dice, does Haste's weight go below crit's?

You should always Sim your character to find your own stat weights. You can do this online at raidbots.com or by downloading the SimulationCraft program yourself

[Guest Mugger]

Please update the Outlaw section for Trinkets and Legendaries. Changelog says no updates since June!

[Furty 51]

19 hours ago, Guest Mugger said:

Please update the Outlaw section for Trinkets and Legendaries. Changelog says no updates since June!

Do you see anything out of date, specifically? Legendary stuff + gear looks good to me.

[Guest KillTheRogue]

I don't see stat weights, can someone tell me what they are for outlaw?

[Carrn 284]

On 06/10/2017 at 1:00 AM, Guest KillTheRogue said:

I don't see stat weights, can someone tell me what they are for outlaw?

There an't any specific stat weights, they are different for every character. You should regularly Sim yourself to figure out your own. There is a handy guide on how to do that here. Alternatively, you can use this website to accomplish the same thing online.

[ddkil 3]

Is that true that t21 set outlaw currently sims better than other specs?Is it really happening lol?

[Carrn 284]

1 minute ago, ddkil said:

Is that true that t21 set outlaw currently sims better than other specs?Is it really happening lol?

The last Sims that I saw put all 3 specs within the margin for error of each other. I suspect that all 3 will be completely viable, and the spec of choice will depend more on the style of fights and personal preference

[ddkil 3]

37 minutes ago, Carrn said:

The last Sims that I saw put all 3 specs within the margin for error of each other. I suspect that all 3 will be completely viable, and the spec of choice will depend more on the style of fights and personal preference

Time to wipe the dust out of the dreadblades :)

Edited November 24, 2017 by ddkil

[Carrn 284]

12 hours ago, ddkil said:

Time to wipe the dust out of the dreadblades :)

Not that I'm judging you, but I'm totally judging you

 

:)

[ddkil 3]

So,honorable the most bottom position on raknings on warcraftlogs for outlul :D

Edited December 4, 2017 by ddkil

[Valks 2,375]

On 12/4/2017 at 3:24 PM, ddkil said:

So,honorable the most bottom position on raknings on warcraftlogs for outlul :D

There's one or two people doing well as Outlaw! There's a #3 on Aggramar  and Garothi on Heroic. For Normal, #1 on Varimathras, #6 on Argus, #4 on Garothi.

Does seem like you can still do well if you get some decent RNG on RtB.

[Carrn 284]

41 minutes ago, Blainie said:

Does seem like you can still do well if you get some decent RNG on RtB.

Now if that doesn't summarise the spec, nothing does

[Valks 2,375]

On 12/6/2017 at 4:24 PM, Carrn said:

Now if that doesn't summarise the spec, nothing does

Let's be honest, there's no better feeling than a max RTB roll. You're basically a god.

[Carrn 284]

15 hours ago, Blainie said:

Let's be honest, there's no better feeling than a max RTB roll. You're basically a god.

I wouldn't know, I don't think I've rolled one since levelling up to 110 in the first place

[Valks 2,375]

7 hours ago, Carrn said:

I wouldn't know, I don't think I've rolled one since levelling up to 110 in the first place

I normally roll it when I'm alone waiting at a base in a BG, just randomly hitting a few buttons.

[Guest Jason]

Hi,

Is it possible to rank the Insignia of the Grand Army Insignia of the Grand Army in the Legendary BiS list?

Thanks,

Jason.

[Valks 2,375]

9 hours ago, Guest Jason said:

Hi,

Is it possible to rank the Insignia of the Grand Army Insignia of the Grand Army in the Legendary BiS list?

Thanks,

Jason.

The problem with Insignia is that its value depends hugely on what your NLC rolls look like. It'll have a different position for pretty much everyone. Simming it is a good way to find out how good it is for you.

[Guest Eyflfla]

Now that haste is all of a sudden worth something, does the value of Grand Melee increase as well? I know haste is also responsible for energy regeneration and Grand Melee doesn't help with that.

[Valks 2,375]

7 hours ago, Guest Eyflfla said:

Now that haste is all of a sudden worth something, does the value of Grand Melee increase as well? I know haste is also responsible for energy regeneration and Grand Melee doesn't help with that.

You won't roll away with one buff unless you have Loaded Dice available to guarantee a 2-buff roll.

[Guest Xilus]

I’m curious about the trinkets for outlaw rogues?

i see a lot of rogues using Convergence of Fate... as versatility is our best stay wouldn’t the alchemy trinket be better or even the trinket from Vari in Antorus?

 

i have Heroic Convergence and Heroic Kil Jaden trinket as well as the alchemist and I still don’t know which is better.

[Valks 2,375]

12 hours ago, Guest Xilus said:

i have Heroic Convergence and Heroic Kil Jaden trinket as well as the alchemist and I still don’t know which is better.

With lack of a better way of putting it, sim it. Trinkets are always impacted by the item level you are comparing them at, your own gear, the tier sets you have, etc. 

Run a gear compare sim on RaidBots and use the different trinkets in each set to find the best combination.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/gear

[Guest Cerin]

Only problem I have on this guide right now is the mass amount of conflicting information.

I get that a lot of it it because there are general rules vs specific ones, but it would be nice to see some of the basic guide areas updated to reflect the detail guides without explaining "why"

example, easy mode should be updated to say things like "vanish before burst if you have mantle", it can list 2 seperate sets of talents based on if you have bracers.

Even the detailed section though states "vanish has no importance" yet later in the legendary section it mentions shoulders being great because true Bearing reduces the CD of vanish allowing it to get more use.

[Valks 2,375]

On 1/9/2018 at 3:15 PM, Guest Cerin said:

Even the detailed section though states "vanish has no importance" yet later in the legendary section it mentions shoulders being great because true Bearing reduces the CD of vanish allowing it to get more use.

I can get Furty to update it, but it won't be added to Easy Mode. The whole point of it is to be as completely simple as possible. We've had complaints on Easy Mode guides that include any mention of legendaries making it too complicated, so we're aiming to keep them as absolutely simple as possible. Even adding things such as "If you have X talent, use this skill" has caused people to complain it's too complicated for Easy Mode.

[Alios 0]

Great guide. I just have a question about Opening Sequences. I was wondering if you have updated it. I'm confused with the sequence of Curse of the Dreadblades. As your guide casting it before Ambush and GS would waste 2 GCD under Artifact skill und 2 full CP finisher, wouldnt it ? Either ambush and GS can bring me full CP because of artifact. could you plz explain that to me ? im a new outlaw rogue, thx.