Restoration Shaman 7.3

[Valks 2,375]

On 6/15/2017 at 11:36 PM, Doug said:

1) In general, what are the implications of the new legendary rings, that add a 2nd talent? 

They don't change much, they are essentially just a flat DPS/HPS increase. The ring for Shaman is pretty mediocre though. There are better options for every spec. 

On 6/15/2017 at 11:36 PM, Doug said:

2) Specifically:  does the ring "Soul of the Farseer" compete, for BIS on any spec? 

No.

On 6/15/2017 at 11:36 PM, Doug said:

3) Also specifically: when using the ring, Echo of the Elements is an automatic talent pick on level 90... is Cloudburst Totem still the best SECOND talent on that level?  ...and

Yes, it is.

On 6/15/2017 at 11:36 PM, Doug said:

4)  With EotE as first talent on level 90, are any other talent changes recommended? 

Not based on EotE being taken, no. You will follow the same pattern of selection.

[Seksi 208]

Also, my review of this guide was much larger than what is currently written, so hopefully once Furty can get on it we'll see a ton of tweaks and changes all around ;)

On your question specifically, the ring won't displace roots/velen as bis or compete with prydaz/gloves as second best.

[Valks 2,375]

We are currently in the process of updating all guides as required for the 7.3 release. Please be patient as we make the necessary changes. You can keep an eye on the changelog to know if the guide has been updated or not. 

[Valks 2,375]

This guide has now been updated for the 7.3 patch. If you have any questions or comments, you can always ask them here. If you find any errors in the new changes to the guide, let me know and I'll get the writers to update it ASAP.

Good luck in the Shadows of Argus!

[Guest Zeds]

On 9/2/2016 at 8:12 PM, Guest Whatislove said:

Hi, great guide just a quick question, when is a good time to use berserking for a troll? with bloodlust or just when needed? 

I have found the best time is during HTT as they have the same CD

[Valks 2,375]

15 hours ago, Guest Zeds said:

I have found the best time is during HTT as they have the same CD

Great tip. Thanks for sharing :)

[Guest Bela]

Hello - Hoping you can clear up my confusion regarding the Netherlight Crucible guide, related to "Tier 2 - Shocklight" - I do not see it anywhere under any relic options. Could this just be a typo? 

Regards,

Belanusia

[Furty 51]

6 hours ago, Guest Bela said:

Hello - Hoping you can clear up my confusion regarding the Netherlight Crucible guide, related to "Tier 2 - Shocklight" - I do not see it anywhere under any relic options. Could this just be a typo? 

Regards,

Belanusia

I see it as the first listed trait(?) - maybe it is just a viewing bug for you? 

 

[Valks 2,375]

1 hour ago, Furty said:

I see it as the first listed trait(?) - maybe it is just a viewing bug for you? 

I'm seeing it as well in the list, as well as the paragraph above. 

7 hours ago, Guest Bela said:

Hello - Hoping you can clear up my confusion regarding the Netherlight Crucible guide, related to "Tier 2 - Shocklight" - I do not see it anywhere under any relic options. Could this just be a typo? 

This might be a simple mistake, but were you perhaps looking only at the low priority list for Tier 2 rather than the full list above?

[Cendri 0]

Thanks for the guide.
I do need some help with figuring out a trinket since I got a new one in my mythic chest .
I am currently using Velens and a 925 Sea star of the Depthmother.
I got a 945 trinket in my chest and I am unsure if I should switch sea star and it.
Trinket in question is down bellooowww.
 

Edited December 20, 2017 by Cendri

[Valks 2,375]

On 12/20/2017 at 11:36 AM, Cendri said:

Thanks for the guide.
I do need some help with figuring out a trinket since I got a new one in my mythic chest .
I am currently using Velens and a 925 Sea star of the Depthmother.
I got a 945 trinket in my chest and I am unsure if I should switch sea star and it.
Trinket in question is down bellooowww.

The new trinket is far worse. Don't swap to it.

[Guest ramborogers]

is that legendary list aimed at raiding ? just wandering what ranks where for mythic plus,

[Valks 2,375]

On 1/19/2018 at 10:23 PM, Guest ramborogers said:

is that legendary list aimed at raiding ? just wandering what ranks where for mythic plus,

It's very similar, other than Sephuz being ranked far higher (almost top, depending on your ability to use it) since you can proc things so much more reliably in M+.

[Valks 2,375]

This guide will be updated for the release of the pre-patch of Battle for Azeroth in the next few days. We are aiming to have every guide deployed prior to the patch going live.

Please note that a new feedback thread will be created for the new guide, meaning that this one will be archived. Any feedback you have for the new guide should be placed in the new comment thread.

Thank you all for your patience and we are working to get the new guides up as soon as possible.

[GOAMANIA 0]

where can i find the old guide? patch 7.3.5?

[Valks 2,375]

3 hours ago, GOAMANIA said:

where can i find the old guide? patch 7.3.5?

You can use this link: https://web.archive.org/web/20180311052838/https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/

[GOAMANIA 0]

I didnt understand how it works. I found the 7.3.5 guide but when i click to talents it goes back to BFA guide

[Valks 2,375]

54 minutes ago, GOAMANIA said:

I didnt understand how it works. I found the 7.3.5 guide but when i click to talents it goes back to BFA guide

Does this work?

https://web.archive.org/web/20180501211849/https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/restoration-shaman-pve-healing-spec-builds-talents

[GOAMANIA 0]

Yes it does work. Thanks. how can i find other guides? is there a easy way to fing them by my self?

Edited July 17, 2018 by GOAMANIA

[Valks 2,375]

11 minutes ago, GOAMANIA said:

Yes it does work. Thanks. how can i find other guides? is there a easy way to fing them by my self?

Just through that webarchive page and navigating it through there - it should work for any class that was archived. 

[Guest Rashyn]

Hi

Regarding 4.1, Soul of the farseer really grants you Flash flood ? I am looking at it in-game (Vridiel) and it says Echo of the elements.

Is this a mistake ?

Thanks

[Adamselene 9]

21 minutes ago, Guest Rashyn said:

Hi

Regarding 4.1, Soul of the farseer really grants you Flash flood ? I am looking at it in-game (Vridiel) and it says Echo of the elements.

Is this a mistake ?

Thanks

Yes, it appears to be.  Soul of the Farseer is still giving Echo of the Elements (Now on the level 30 talent row) and not Flash Flood.  I'll pass this along to Seksi so he can correct it.  Thank you for catching that!

Edit:  I'm being told that this was hotfixed by Blizzard within the last hour or so and the information posted was correct before that.

[Seksi 208]

Quite the unfortunate hotfix too, it had been giving Flash Flood since the talent was first introduced in beta and me (as well as most other shaman theorycrafters) expected the tooltip to be hotfixed instead, as Flash Flood is even more powerful than current Echo and allows much better raiding talents to also be taken.

Due to this change Soul of the Farseer is no longer one of our best raiding legendaries and was bumped down to the average tier. For dungeons its a decent choice, still. Thanks for the report anyway! :)

[Guest DrFisky]

A tip for common mistakes -> miss-managing mana. I find a simple way to keep track of this is to keep my mana bar 5% higher than the bosses health bar. It's not fool-proof, but if you generally align your mana to it's health, you can be reasonably sure you won't run out too early, or worse, end the fight with a lot of un-cast spells due to being too frugal. 

[Valks 2,375]

14 hours ago, Guest DrFisky said:

A tip for common mistakes -> miss-managing mana. I find a simple way to keep track of this is to keep my mana bar 5% higher than the bosses health bar. It's not fool-proof, but if you generally align your mana to it's health, you can be reasonably sure you won't run out too early, or worse, end the fight with a lot of un-cast spells due to being too frugal. 

While this can work sometimes, you have to remember that certain fights require very different management styles. Take Aggramar, for example, where almost all healing required comes during the extremely damage-heavy add phase. Once you have got through the adds' explosions, there is very little to heal. Also, as fights become easier due to gear, progression being over, etc., you will find yourself ending fights with more mana than you normally would. 

This also doesn't take into account external cooldowns, such as Innervate, availability of mana potions, etc.