Affliction Warlock 7.3

[Furty 51]

On 8/29/2016 at 7:29 PM, Guest Disapproval said:

Thanks for busting your butt on the guides and getting them all up before Legion release Furty, much appreciated.

I'm torn between affliction and destro as my leveling-up and primary raid specs. A small issue, but one that is impacted by the keybind fluency and familiarity I develop over the next few weeks before raids land. I feel like I should pick Destro as the safe, jack of all trades raiding spec, but have a personal preference for Affliction. Time will tell I suppose.

I do very much wish that I didn't feel that no matter which spec I choose, I am limited by the specificity of said spec's strengths and weaknesses. To clarify, it appears that each spec does one role (ST/Cleave/AoE) reasonably well, but is inflexible and offers suboptimal performance in all other categories regardless of talent choice. I had hoped each spec would perform capably in all roles depending on talent loadout, so that those of us who have less time to learn/gear offspecs, or simply like to embrace a particular playstyle, needn't switch all the time. Obviously, there isn't a need per se, but I will likely be progression raiding this xpac and I dislike being forced to make a significant trade-off between raid optimization and personal enjoyment. I will just have to try and treat it as a fresh challenge.

Just airing my thoughts - I am sure I will enjoy playing no matter how things shake out. Have fun levelling everyone, see you in raid!

Recommend Aff in dungeons/leveling. I will be putting 20 points into Demo artifact, 16 into aff, and 16 in destro.

[JoeyJubs 0]

When the current class speculation has affliction as the worst raiding spec. How much worse is it compared to the other two specs? Personal favorite spec of mine heh.

[kakascii 0]

Hello can anyone help me. I like some help with a  good mythic dungeon build and the rotation of the seed of corruption spam ?

There isnt a rotation for aoe on the site.

maybe im blind that I can not see it.

 

[Guest Azzana]

Hello, thanks a lot fort this guide.

I am already 835ilvl and have done aller mythics but i am still un doubt.. What would be the best talents as afflilock for mythic dungeon, assuming you don't change it

[Malovent 1]

Hi there

 

I would just like to make sure about the stat priorities. I follow Ask. MrRobot as well for advice and whats the best gear, but they switch haste and mastery around contrary to hear. No criticism, just need to make sure about those two stats.

 

Thanks in advance

[Valks 2,375]

10 minutes ago, Malovent said:

Hi there

 

I would just like to make sure about the stat priorities. I follow Ask. MrRobot as well for advice and whats the best gear, but they switch haste and mastery around contrary to hear. No criticism, just need to make sure about those two stats.

 

Thanks in advance

This is the explanation Furty gives in the guide:

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The amount of Shard generation per Haste rating is less efficient than the flat damage received from Mastery. The value of Mastery is even higher on multi target, making it the clear go-to.

 

[Malovent 1]

Ah thanks Blainie!

[Valks 2,375]

20 hours ago, Malovent said:

Ah thanks Blainie!

No problem. Don't hesitate to ask if you have further questions!

[Fairyboy 0]

For our artifact ability, Do we just use it to keep up time on the buff as much as possible? is there any priority placed on that? I assume when you have doomegaurd and Fellhound out you want that up correct? 

[Valks 2,375]

18 hours ago, Fairyboy said:

For our artifact ability, Do we just use it to keep up time on the buff as much as possible? is there any priority placed on that? I assume when you have doomegaurd and Fellhound out you want that up correct? 

It looks like the summon spells are below the artifact in the priority, assuming buff stacks etc.

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1. Maintain  Agony (on up to 3 targets, including  Soul Effigy) at all times.
2. Cast  Unstable Affliction if you reach 5 Soul Shards.
3. Maintain  Corruption (on up to 3 targets, including  Soul Effigy) at all times.
4. Place your  Soul Effigy if absent.
5. Maintain  Siphon Life (on up to 3 targets, including  Soul Effigy) at all times.
6. Cast  Reap Souls when you hit 12 stacks, burst damage is important, or you have stacks from  Wrath of Consumption.
7. Cast  Summon Doomguard on cooldown.
8. Cast  Grimoire: Felhunter on cooldown.

 

[Fairyboy 0]

3 hours ago, Blainie said:

It looks like the summon spells are below the artifact in the priority, assuming buff stacks etc.

 

I swear I read through this like 5 times before posting so I wouldn't look like a noob... sorry for the fail thanks again for the very fast response haha

[Valks 2,375]

42 minutes ago, Fairyboy said:

I swear I read through this like 5 times before posting so I wouldn't look like a noob... sorry for the fail thanks again for the very fast response haha

No problem! :)

[Guest rdempsey27]

just an FYI. affdots has no update for the new spells in legion...so its not really great for tracking....

[Valks 2,375]

5 hours ago, Guest rdempsey27 said:

just an FYI. affdots has no update for the new spells in legion...so its not really great for tracking....

Will look into this and update the addon guide. Thanks for letting us know!

[Guest thebest0f]

Hello and thank you for the guide! It is a great help. Could I just ask though, what is your reasoning for moving left along the artifact line first instead of right? Harvester of Souls just sounds like a fantastic damage boost, especially when coupled with absolute corruption and soul effigy. Do you think that going for HOS first would be a reasonable substitution?

[Valks 2,375]

On 9/20/2016 at 7:22 PM, Guest thebest0f said:

Hello and thank you for the guide! It is a great help. Could I just ask though, what is your reasoning for moving left along the artifact line first instead of right? Harvester of Souls just sounds like a fantastic damage boost, especially when coupled with absolute corruption and soul effigy. Do you think that going for HOS first would be a reasonable substitution?

So, when the guide was initially written, it was at the launch of Legion. For the first few weeks, people were exclusively doing dungeon content and will do so while gearing up and leveling. Due to how the process of gearing works, you will be constantly in a situation where AoE is VERY useful. The trait taken first is extremely powerful while gearing and doing dungeons, so it is taken first, since it boosts AoE damage hugely.

This is why HoS is last, since you'll be grabbing it as you venture into raiding. 

[kakascii 0]

@Blainie Will it be updated anytime soon ? You said that this build has been made at the start of legion , so I was wondering if there is going to be an update soon.

[Valks 2,375]

1 hour ago, kakascii said:

@Blainie Will it be updated anytime soon ? You said that this build has been made at the start of legion , so I was wondering if there is going to be an update soon.

It is constantly being updated, there isn't much to change currently. I'll try to explain my comment above a bit better:

During the gearing process, you'll still be doing those dungeons and such. You need to clear the dungeons to be able to do raids, so you will still follow the same Artifact path, unless you get boosted through raids only to specifically completely skip the dungeon phase.

Even then, you'd still be using it for leveling.

[Valks 2,375]

Generic comment being mass posted over the comments threads guys.

We are aware of the changes and our writers are working hard to update the guides to suit what has changed. Currently, there is a lot of work still to be done and it's unlikely that every guide will be up-to-date immediately. Expect a flood of updates over the coming days that will answer all of your questions about what is now best after X change, in time for the reset next week.

Thanks for your understanding and patience.

[Guest Aggs]

So i see that the stat priority hasn't been updated since 29th of august which seems kinda odd. I feel pretty confident that the stat priorities changed at launch though.

 

[Valks 2,375]

1 hour ago, Guest Aggs said:

So i see that the stat priority hasn't been updated since 29th of august which seems kinda odd. I feel pretty confident that the stat priorities changed at launch though.

 

I'm not sure I understand?

We updated the stat priorities on the 29th so that they were ready for launch. If we had done it on the 30th, people would have been playing the game and not having the guides to help.

[Guest Åge]

Thanks for a great guide!

 

About the stats, what percentage of mastery and haste, and how much intellect would you get with the BIS ?

And what do you recommend the stats be when we start raiding ?

[Valks 2,375]

On 9/27/2016 at 9:14 PM, Guest Åge said:

Thanks for a great guide!

About the stats, what percentage of mastery and haste, and how much intellect would you get with the BIS ?

And what do you recommend the stats be when we start raiding ?

I'm not sure about the first question, I'll check the gear and let you know.

For the second, there isn't really a stat point to have before you start raiding. if you feel your DPS is strong enough, go for it! Stats don't really mean much, since you could have perfect gear and be terrible at the class, or have terrible gear and be perfect at the class.

[Kaedys 5]

The section on Agony seems to be out of date.  Specifically, the section on the Nightfall hidden counter is accurate per the most recent bluepost in the beta theory thread, but the section on the Soul Effigy still refers to the old 2.5%-per-tick-per-tick incrementing mechanic, which is no longer used.  Effigy is also no longer a 25% increase to Soul Shard proc rate, it's a 41.4% (√2) increase against a single target and a 22.5% (√3/√2) increase against 2 target.  This post specifically states that there's no special Effigy handling for Agony proc rate any longer: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/409203-theorycrafting-questions/#post270

[Valks 2,375]

1 hour ago, Kaedis said:

The section on Agony seems to be out of date.  Specifically, the section on the Nightfall hidden counter is accurate per the most recent bluepost in the beta theory thread, but the section on the Soul Effigy still refers to the old 2.5%-per-tick-per-tick incrementing mechanic, which is no longer used.  Effigy is also no longer a 25% increase to Soul Shard proc rate, it's a 41.4% (√2) increase against a single target and a 22.5% (√3/√2) increase against 2 target.  This post specifically states that there's no special Effigy handling for Agony proc rate any longer: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/409203-theorycrafting-questions/#post270

Passing this on to Furty.