Fury Warrior 7.3

[Guest Chieftain]

I just have seen some changes to Enchants and would like to know 

Enchant Neck - Mark of the Hidden Satyr

 is still the BiS for neck or 

Enchant Neck - Mark of the Trained Soldier

is getting better now. 600 of mastery is a great plus to the stats i think. What would you say?

 

[Syward 0]

Looking at the “Fury Warrior DPS Rotation, Cooldowns, and Abilities” section of the guide, the header was updated to reflect 7.1.5, but the content is still providing a 7.1 rotation using Dragon Roar and Massacre. The opening rotation section specifically mentions using Dragon Roar. Any ETA on when the rotation section will be updated to reflect the recommendation of taking Frothing Berseker and Reckless Abandon?

 

For the core rotation, from what I can gather, you want to use RB > BT > FS/WW until you’re at 100 rage, then use Rampage once you have the FB proc and repeat this cycle of build to 100 and spend, correct?

I’m especially curious about the specifics for the opening rotation would that be Charge > Avatar > BC > Rampage > RB > BT > RB?

And what is the Execute phase rotation? Do we build to 100 > Rampage > Execute > Execute > Execute > repeat?

[Valks 2,375]

3 hours ago, Guest Chieftain said:

What would you say?

The enchants/consumables page has been updated for 7.1.5 by Wordup, so one would assume that this is indeed the correct neck to use. You can always try to sim your character using the two different enchants and it will give you an approximation of which functions better.

[Valks 2,375]

1 hour ago, Syward said:

Any ETA on when the rotation section will be updated to reflect the recommendation of taking Frothing Berseker and Reckless Abandon?

The page has already been updated for players to use with the recommended talents. Dragon Roar is mentioned because people still use the talent, regardless of our recommendations. Some just prefer that talent, so we have to ensure they are also able to use the rotation. This is why we have the following sentence, with the phrase at the end:

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Cast Dragon Roar, Avatar and Bloodbath if taken.

Hope this helps!

[Guest Results of the Guide]

I've testet this guide and its very strong!

[Valks 2,375]

8 minutes ago, Guest Results of the Guide said:

I've testet this guide and its very strong!

I'm glad to hear that you have enjoyed using the guide. I didn't see how putting your guide video in your comment was intended as feedback for the guide, so I have removed the link.

Thanks for your comment :)

[Guest Grandnoodler]

After reading this guide(amazing guide btw; helped me play my fury warrior{first DPS}) and several pages worth of comments as well as other forums; I noticed most people say you should do your best to prevent capping your Rage bar so as not to waste any Rage, thus lowering your DPS. After opening my first Emissary Cache I received Ayala's Stone Breaker which prompted me to select the Massacre talent to make use of the Artifact Trait that increases your Execute critical strikes so I can make use of the free Rampage casts. Essentially after doing so I will be rage capped several times during a fight due to the free Rampage casts. Should I adjust my talents to the recommended Frothing Berserker to avoid that wasted rage? Or should I not prioritize casting Execute when proc'd by Ayala's?

Basically I need some help with my rotation now that I have Ayala's equipped since it will proc several times in a row on occasion making it difficult to deplete my Rage bar. Thanks for your reply!

[Valks 2,375]

18 minutes ago, Guest Grandnoodler said:

Basically I need some help with my rotation now that I have Ayala's equipped since it will proc several times in a row on occasion making it difficult to deplete my Rage bar. Thanks for your reply!

Essentially, you can use either talent with Ayala. They are basically the same, with FB being slightly ahead still. If you get bad RNG procs on Ayala and Massacre, you'll struggle to keep up with what FB could have been.

[Khav 0]

actually i dont like Frothing Berserker, delaying Rampage to reach 100 rage creates relatively big windows without enrage

 

in my playstyle massacre gives me much more overall

 

btw, am I the only one, who sometimes hit bloodthrist on battle cry and dont get enrage? 100% should be 100%...

Edited January 12, 2017 by Khav

[Guest Skobel24]

Does the damage increase from Avatar and Frothing Berserker stack?

[Valks 2,375]

8 hours ago, Khav said:

in my playstyle massacre gives me much more overall

If you prefer that talent, you can use it for sure, FB is currently the better talent without prolonged Execute-able phases though.

[Valks 2,375]

7 hours ago, Guest Skobel24 said:

Does the damage increase from Avatar and Frothing Berserker stack?

They do.

[Guest Chosin107]

So with the new FB talent do you always want to wait for 100 rage before u raging blow? I feel that is what most ppl do. I also have Ayala's, but from what I read they nerfed it's proc rate? Making FB talent more sought after too right?

[Valks 2,375]

11 minutes ago, Guest Chosin107 said:

So with the new FB talent do you always want to wait for 100 rage before u raging blow? I feel that is what most ppl do. I also have Ayala's, but from what I read they nerfed it's proc rate? Making FB talent more sought after too right?

Yes, to both.

[Guest Chosin107]

So with the new FB talent do you always want to wait for 100 rage before u raging blow? I feel that is what most ppl do. I also have Ayala's, but from what I read they nerfed it's proc rate? Making FB talent more sought after too right?

 

and by raging blow I clearly ment Rampage, but it seems you picked up on that lol. whoops.

[Valks 2,375]

3 hours ago, Guest Chosin107 said:

and by raging blow I clearly ment Rampage, but it seems you picked up on that lol. whoops.

I did :) You should wait for that 100 rage buff to occur, then Rampage.

[DrDark 0]

Hello, I have a question about the gear.

Assuming that you have all the gear displayed in the Best in Slot section and you also get the Legendary Helmet and Legendary Cloak should you still go for the items that give you the set bonus or just stick with what you have?
After all the enrage bonus doesn't look that juicy if you have enrage active  atleast 90% of the fight ( Unless you get incredibly unlucky and none of your Bloodthirts ever crits which is basically impossible. ). 

[Valks 2,375]

12 hours ago, DrDark said:

Hello, I have a question about the gear.

Assuming that you have all the gear displayed in the Best in Slot section and you also get the Legendary Helmet and Legendary Cloak should you still go for the items that give you the set bonus or just stick with what you have?
After all the enrage bonus doesn't look that juicy if you have enrage active  atleast 90% of the fight ( Unless you get incredibly unlucky and none of your Bloodthirts ever crits which is basically impossible. ). 

The thing is, with Mastery boosting the damage during enrage, you are essentially at a DPS loss as soon as you leave the enraged period. I'd argue that the tier set bonus is worth it even until you have 99-100% uptime, simply because outside of enrage you immediately lose (at least for my Warrior currently) nearly 20% damage.

[Guest Jakco]

Hello

I am still where much in doubt about the execution phase. Do we prioritize getting to 100 rage to proc FB? When we reach 100 rage, do we rely on BT to proc enrage or do we use Rampage? Because if we use Rampage, we wont have rage for Execute. When we have spend the rage, do we then build up to 100 rage again before executing? In that way we wont use Execute much and Juggernaut wont build up.

I hope you can clarify the rotation

 

[Guest PureEvil]

With 2 targets, is it still worth maintaining meat cleaver as the highest priority? Or would raging blow go higher in priority list. With 3 targets, it seems the damage loss from casting whirlwind is made up by the damage gain from bloodthirst and rampage but not so with 2 targets. Do you get more enrage proc by using bloodthirst with meatcleaver when damaging multiple targets or is it the same?

 

A related question, in two targets situation, is whirlwind better than furious slash? ~double damage vs 15% increase crit with next bloodthirst.

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BUG REPORT: the link to Meat Cleaver should be http://www.wowdb.com/spells/85739-meat-cleaver but its incorrectly http://www.wowdb.com/spells/23881-bloodthirst

[Guest PureEvil]

5 hours ago, Guest Jakco said:

Hello

I am still where much in doubt about the execution phase. Do we prioritize getting to 100 rage to proc FB? When we reach 100 rage, do we rely on BT to proc enrage or do we use Rampage? Because if we use Rampage, we wont have rage for Execute. When we have spend the rage, do we then build up to 100 rage again before executing? In that way we wont use Execute much and Juggernaut wont build up.

I hope you can clarify the rotation

 

Our only two rage dump are Rampage and Execute. Typically, when you reach 100 rage, it's better to use Rampage not only to activate enrage but to dump rage so that FB can proc again once the rage bar refills. However, in the execute phase, when you reach 100 rage and enrage is still active, then execute will have higher priority then rampage. This will allow FB to proc again much faster. If you don't have the Enrage buff, then cast rampage because Enrage is a much stronger buff than FB. 

What I couldn't decide is that when Sense Death procs and there is no Enrage buff, should execute have higher priority than raging blow? 

[Guest Guest Leonardobros]

Hello ! I have a question about the stat priority. At the guide it says : 

1. Haste to 30%;
2. Mastery;
3. Haste beyond 30%;
4. Strength;
5. Versatility;
6. Critical Strike.

So, how do I transfer this stat priority to my pawn, so that pawn knows that haste ist the most important until 30%, then mastery, then haste beyond 30% , then strength etc. 
I hope you understand what I'm talking about ^^ 

[Guest Milka]

I just want to share some information regarding the new talents as I was not sure about the new build.

Prepatch I used Massacre and Dragon Roar as I have Aylas stone heart. I had a real struggle to give it up after the patch as I thought I would have no enrage uptime.

So I tried the new spec and was not disappointed. Had an increase from 320k dps to 400k.

In my opinion the new spec is also very easy to use, you just spam BL and RB to fill your rage bar and cast Rampage when FB procs. If you get an Aylas proc you can save it for this little burst phase as it's like 10 seconds usable. For execute phase I do exactly the same except of using 1 execute while buffed. This means BL-RB -> (FB proc) -> Rampage -> RB -> Execute [Repeat from start]. The enrage will easily get you 30 Rage to use a buffed Execute 1 time.

I recommend to set an Weak Aura on the FB proc as for me it was hard to identify the proc in mythic Raid situation. I also use a Weak Aura for Ayla proc's to not waste it.

Hope it helps you to get out of the Massacre or FB struggle :)

[Guest Skobel24]

Does IcyVeins post the stat weights for specs anywhere? I haven't been able to find updated weights for 7.1.5 for fury.