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10 hours ago, Guest Cheers said:

are you sure youre stats are right? amr got different numbers

This is a frequently asked question - often, the same response is given each time. If you can show us why our stats are wrong and the ones listed on AMR are correct, we can schedule a review and check our stats once more. At this time, your comment doesn't really tell us why we might be wrong other than AMR being different.

It might simply be that AMR is wrong.

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5 hours ago, Ampea said:

I'm not really sure where I should post this because I'm very new, but there is a typo in the Havoc guide.

On the Rotation, Cooldowns, and Abilities page, there is a typo under Tier 19 Set Bonuses:
"The 4-piece bonus enhances Chaos Strike even further, increasing the frequency of refinds" (should probably be "refunds")

Also, just pointing it out, maybe the creator just hasn't gotten around to it, maybe they hadn't noticed, but some of the information in Rotations, Cooldowns, and Abilities is a bit outdated. It states that Blur refunds (or maybe it refinds) Fel Rush charges, and that Demon Blades is a 65% chance on hit.

Will pass this all on to Wordup, thanks!

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5 hours ago, Blainie said:

This is a frequently asked question - often, the same response is given each time. If you can show us why our stats are wrong and the ones listed on AMR are correct, we can schedule a review and check our stats once more. At this time, your comment doesn't really tell us why we might be wrong other than AMR being different.

It might simply be that AMR is wrong.

sry im just confused that they're are different. i dont know who is right and who is wrong. i use pawn and this addon get the numbers from amr, so actually i dont know what gear is good or not. but if i compare the stats yours make more sense to me.

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1 hour ago, Guest Cheers said:

sry im just confused that they're are different. i dont know who is right and who is wrong. i use pawn and this addon get the numbers from amr, so actually i dont know what gear is good or not. but if i compare the stats yours make more sense to me.

Our priority should be correct and, when someone does let us know about an error or change, it is normally reviewed as soon as possible.

If you're looking for weights for pawn, they should be released next week at some point. It does sometimes take slightly longer due to the fact that weights take much more calculation than a priority, especially when it is being used as a general weight.

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22 minutes ago, Guest Ister said:

Why the set CoS/Arcway isn't in BiS ?  Ring of the Scoured Clan  seems also bad. 

I would assume because testing showed it performing worse than EoC. Chrono Shard is considerably worse on the trinket sims, so the set bonus really won't make it that much better at all, given that you also sacrifice the neck slot to something that has no crit.

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Hi fellows, I have a question about simulation craft, do you all use to measure the priority of the correct statuses? But the last update of it was December 20, I saw that some skills appear with the wrong description, for example demons blade giving 85% prock, when in fact it is 60%

Do I have to wait for the program to update to test accurately? Are there any beta versions that you use with the correct values?

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Guest Kubin

Am I correct in assuming Felblade slips into the AoE rotation pretty much whenever as long as you don't overcap fury/have something more important (I.e. Eye beam, Fury, etc.)?

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32 minutes ago, Guest Kubin said:

Am I correct in assuming Felblade slips into the AoE rotation pretty much whenever as long as you don't overcap fury/have something more important (I.e. Eye beam, Fury, etc.)?

Will double check with Wordup, but I would assume so.

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12 hours ago, Guest Kubin said:

Am I correct in assuming Felblade slips into the AoE rotation pretty much whenever as long as you don't overcap fury/have something more important (I.e. Eye beam, Fury, etc.)?

From Wordup:

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It's used on CD as long as you don't cap Fury to sustain things

Hope this helps.

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Guest Dux

Hi, can you please tell me if Wordup is using simcraft to scale the stat weights? I'm simulating my havoc DH since one week now and agility is always the top stat. In a patchwerk fight crit, mastery, haste and versatility have almost the same weighting and in multi target versatility gets more important. At the moment I’m very confused which stat priority should be used because several guides are proposing different weightings.

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On 16/01/2017 at 0:18 PM, Blainie said:

I would assume because testing showed it performing worse than EoC. Chrono Shard is considerably worse on the trinket sims, so the set bonus really won't make it that much better at all, given that you also sacrifice the neck slot to something that has no crit.

I don't talk about chrono shard, but the Jacin set ( boots and Hands ) which give +3000 mastery. 

And it seems to have a "soft" haste cap at 4000 with bl and 4800 without. Under 4000 the haste is always the best stats after agility.

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Guest Kosy

Have someone tested Arcanogolem Digit trinket(agi trink with chance to deal frontal AOE)? Got 2 procs for 154k damage overall for heroic Krossus fight!!! 99.9% activity time, is it broken? 

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On 1/18/2017 at 5:15 PM, Guest Dux said:

Hi, can you please tell me if Wordup is using simcraft to scale the stat weights? I'm simulating my havoc DH since one week now and agility is always the top stat. In a patchwerk fight crit, mastery, haste and versatility have almost the same weighting and in multi target versatility gets more important. At the moment I’m very confused which stat priority should be used because several guides are proposing different weightings.

Yes, he does. Your stat weights will always be different from the ones in the guide, since stats always change depending on their current values. The weights/priority in the guide are specifically tailored to a general perspective, while yours are specifically for one person's gear.

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18 hours ago, Guest Ister said:

I don't talk about chrono shard, but the Jacin set ( boots and Hands ) which give +3000 mastery. 

And it seems to have a "soft" haste cap at 4000 with bl and 4800 without. Under 4000 the haste is always the best stats after agility.

Then this is most likely due to the BiS being based on raid gear:

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Bear in mind that all of this is subject to change based on Warforging and Titanforging happening on gear, so this is absolutely a guideline and not a rule. Note that it is also just dealing with gear from raid environments, so this could change if you are spending a large amount of time in Mythic+ and gaining different, rarer pieces.

There are better pieces, but they need either incredibly high M+ levels or a huge amount of luck to beat out raid gear. I'll ask if the Jacin set is worth it.

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25 minutes ago, Guest Kosy said:

Have someone tested Arcanogolem Digit trinket(agi trink with chance to deal frontal AOE)? Got 2 procs for 154k damage overall for heroic Krossus fight!!! 99.9% activity time, is it broken? 

I believe the trinket is just pretty weak in general. It sims incredibly low as well.

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Guest Jorg

Simming a crit/mastery vs haste/mastery build I get  527K vs 555K  so it seems the way to go is haste mastery. For both sim spec is  2 2 2 3 3 1 1
 

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10 minutes ago, Guest Jorg said:

Simming a crit/mastery vs haste/mastery build I get  527K vs 555K  so it seems the way to go is haste mastery. For both sim spec is  2 2 2 3 3 1 1

So, I'm assuming you simply simmed your own character twice, compared the DPS and one was better than the other? Can you show your testing results? What you've said here basically means nothing until you show us what you have done to get those results. 

I need things I can pass on to Wordup, graphs, maths, facts, sim results, log results, whatever you choose to send. I can't use this.

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Guest Lercerz

I have tested and simmed different setups with Convergence of Fate and it seems that it does not in fact deserve the top slot in the trinkets list. I have an 875 CoF and an 870 Eye of Command (both without sockets) simmed a 25k dps increase from the CoF, and testing on a Training dummy over a 6min duration gave the EoC a 40k increase in dps from the CoF. For reference my ilvl is 886, my legendaries are the Helm and the Chest and my secondary stats are: Crit 36%, Haste 11%, Mast 27% and Vers 5%.

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By chance is the draught of souls trink still ranked that high even with the CD bug? (It says it on a 1min 20sec cd but really is 2 min)

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Guest Mini

The top 5 trinkets are still actual ? Cuz i didnt see any1 besides me who is using that Draught of Souls 895 / Convergence of Faith 875. On others sites like Mr.Robot there are actually different rankings for trinkets and guys of wowprogress still have from tov/en. 

For example  I found that  Nightblooming Frond  have much bigger ranking. Hope you can clear this out.

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Hi, I have a question, in my simulation I got a very high damage with the use of Eye Beam, probably because I have some relics that increase its damage, dividing the DPS of this skill by the cost of fury, I reached the number of 12.5, while Chaos strike the number is around 9.9, so I assume I can inflict more damage by fury using Eye Beam than Chaos Strike, this should be taken into account and should I start using Eye Beam in my ST rotation?

Thank you! 

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Guest Mathar

For a second I though demon reborn would work with demonic until I had a closer look at the description: "Invoking metamorphosis...".
Sad - but makes demon reborn really useless.

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Guest Easy mode build bad

felblades sucks and so does demonblades since patch. Straight right side to the end except the one before the end, use the glaive one on the left. The easy mode suggestion is horrible.

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