Minion Tempo Mage Standard

[TheEviscerator 2]

I hvae no yogg or rag,i replaced them with medivh and 2ndflamestrike,how is it

[positiv2 953]

6 hours ago, TheEviscerator said:

I hvae no yogg or rag,i replaced them with medivh and 2ndflamestrike,how is it

If you don't have Yogg-Saron, Hope's End, try regular tempo, or if you want to play Medivh, the Guardian, try medivh tempo.

[FeelinFine 0]

Why is there no AOE board clear in the deck?  Seems vulnerable to agro minion rush decks (aka Murloc Paladin) no?

[positiv2 953]

11 hours ago, FeelinFine said:

Why is there no AOE board clear in the deck?  Seems vulnerable to agro minion rush decks (aka Murloc Paladin) no?

You run more minions than regular tempo mage, and you still have 2 Flamewakers, so you don't need AoE board clears, such as Flamestrike, as much. If you feel like the meta is too fast, feel free to include one Flamestrike in place of Ragnaros the Firelord.

[FeelinFine 0]

On ‎12‎/‎5‎/‎2016 at 0:04 PM, positiv2 said:

You run more minions than regular tempo mage, and you still have 2 Flamewakers, so you don't need AoE board clears, such as Flamestrike, as much. If you feel like the meta is too fast, feel free to include one Flamestrike in place of Ragnaros the Firelord.

Fair enough.  Maybe you guys see different decks at your level of play, but at my level every deck is an agro deck and they swarm the board quickly.  I can't see any mage deck at my level not have two flamestrikes to deal with that.

edit: here's a replay example- without flamestrike I would have lost https://hsreplay.net/replay/yeL3TxGMpDmVuajCHPFsG2

Edited December 8, 2016 by FeelinFine

[positiv2 953]

8 hours ago, FeelinFine said:

Fair enough.  Maybe you guys see different decks at your level of play, but at my level every deck is an agro deck and they swarm the board quickly.  I can't see any mage deck at my level not have two flamestrikes to deal with that.

edit: here's a replay example- without flamestrike I would have lost https://hsreplay.net/replay/yeL3TxGMpDmVuajCHPFsG2

There were some misplay that caused the need for Flamestrike. You should have played Mana Wyrm on turn 1, not turn 2. On turn 3, you didn't need to draw as you had enough cards, and the one extra attack was not enough to justify not playing Cult Sorcerer. On turn 4 you should have played Water Elemental in order to have a bigger minion board, as well as a way to prevent rogue from attacking, as a 1/1 is simply too small to make any difference - no need to ping there. Playing the Arcane Missiles on turn 9 was completely unnecessary - if you hit the Ragnaros the Firelord with your own Rag, the damage you deal to him is wasted, and additionally you had 2 Flamewakers in hand, which means 4 more damage.

[Guest guest]

i dont have arcane blasts. is it ok the volcanic pot, pot of polymorph or other new discover mage gadgetzan card for swap ? how can i swap them in the current meta?

[positiv2 953]

9 hours ago, Guest guest said:

i dont have arcane blasts. is it ok the volcanic pot, pot of polymorph or other new discover mage gadgetzan card for swap ? how can i swap them in the current meta?

One copy of Volcanic Potion is alright in current meta. You can also tech in a single copy of Acidic Swamp Ooze, Flamestrike or 2 Forgotten Torches.

[Guest Monsy]

Hey, I really like the deck nut have severe probs to sustain against Reno decks. Any suggestions? Thought about exchanging one Azure Dragon for an Archmage Antonidas für more late game power, if the opponent played Reno already.

[positiv2 953]

29 minutes ago, Guest Monsy said:

Hey, I really like the deck nut have severe probs to sustain against Reno decks. Any suggestions? Thought about exchanging one Azure Dragon for an Archmage Antonidas für more late game power, if the opponent played Reno already.

You might want to try Cabalist's tome tempo mage instead, as it offer much higher late-game power. You might also try combining these two decks and see if that works out well for you.

[vatu 0]

What can I replace arcane blast and flamewaker with? Thanks!

[Keizoku 185]

You can try a second Babbling Book and an extra damage spell (Forgotten Torch, Flamestrike... Hell even Arcane Explosion could be useful to calm down an aggressive Pirate start) for the Arcane Blast.

Flamewaker, on the other hand is a key card to the deck. Combined to cheap spells, it is a fantastic source of damage. You can try to swap Ethereal Conjurer for them, but you'd better get BrM.

[positiv2 953]

8 hours ago, vatu said:

What can I replace arcane blast and flamewaker with? Thanks!

You can replace Arcane Blasts with what Keizoku said. Flamewakers, on the other hand, are simply irreplaceable. They are your win condition against all types of decks, as their damage output can be massive. Recently I had a turn 4 lethal thanks to them - that's how powerful they are. That said, you should rather play reno mage or freeze mage.

[vatu 0]

1 hour ago, positiv2 said:

You can replace Arcane Blasts with what Keizoku said. Flamewakers, on the other hand, are simply irreplaceable. They are your win condition against all types of decks, as their damage output can be massive. Recently I had a turn 4 lethal thanks to them - that's how powerful they are. That said, you should rather play reno mage or freeze mage.

I could buy the solo adventure for blackrock mountain im just worrying it's not worth because it goes to wild in 2017... so rest in pease my mage decks... Sure i can play reno mage, just give me 6000 dust

[positiv2 953]

25 minutes ago, vatu said:

I could buy the solo adventure for blackrock mountain im just worrying it's not worth because it goes to wild in 2017... so rest in pease my mage decks... Sure i can play reno mage, just give me 6000 dust

You still get dust. You get lower dust-per-gold ratio than from packs, but it still should be enough to justify the purchase of BrM wings.

In the meantime, you can play our budget C'thun mage. C'thun decks also scale very well with your collection, so if you have a decent collection, you can definitely make some favourable swaps to increase the power of the deck.

[vatu 0]

16 minutes ago, positiv2 said:

You still get dust. You get lower dust-per-gold ratio than from packs, but it still should be enough to justify the purchase of BrM wings.

In the meantime, you can play our budget C'thun mage. C'thun decks also scale very well with your collection, so if you have a decent collection, you can definitely make some favourable swaps to increase the power of the deck.

I have the c'thun deck but i just can't win with it at rank 16. budget jade shaman has been pretty good, although i still miss tunnel troggs from all of my shaman decks..

[positiv2 953]

10 hours ago, vatu said:

I have the c'thun deck but i just can't win with it at rank 16. budget jade shaman has been pretty good, although i still miss tunnel troggs from all of my shaman decks..

Have you tried making swaps that would increase the budget of the deck, like adding Twin Emperor Vek'lor or Brann Bronzebeard?

[JohnnyZ 6]

On 07/10/2016 at 4:34 PM, positiv2 said:

This deck is centered around Yogg-Saron, Hope's End (hence the name), and swapping him for a different card would make this deck a generic tempo mage with Ragnaros the Firelord. This deck should be moved to the "Unique decks" category instead imo.

If it doesn't have Yogg in it, it shouldn't be titled Yogg.

[positiv2 953]

15 minutes ago, JohnnyZ said:

If it doesn't have Yogg in it, it shouldn't be titled Yogg.

Yogg-Saron, Hope's End was removed from the deck after the nerf. However, an issue rose after archetypes were added to our site, where the wrong guide was used ( older "yogg" tempo mage instead of the newer minion tempo mage), with the same cards however. The root of this issue is a bit complex, and since the only differences are in intro and name of the deck (not even the guide itself), it was decided to work on the fix after holidays. Thank you for your understanding.