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Havoc vs Vengeance dps

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So i was doing a dungeon for a storyquest, and i was lvl 107 Havoc, and doing the most dps in the group, but halfway through the dungeon we decided to kick the warrior tank for taking a dump for well over 10 minutes. We got a new DH tank at lvl 101 (vengeance, duh) and she surpassed my dps with over 15% by the end of the dungeon, without me resetting my dps meter, how tha F is that possible? I'ma dps whore btw x)

I tried playing vengeance while questing, but felt like the mobs didn't die as quickly as they used to when i was havoc. And yes, i am pretty sure it's not because i suck :P

I know two specs can surpass one another at different lvls, so my question is this: at 110/endgame, what spec for DH is best regarding dps?

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2 hours ago, Shredderizer said:

I know two specs can surpass one another at different lvls, so my question is this: at 110, what spec for DH is best regarding dps?

Veng is a tank spec.

Havoc is a DPS spec.

In 5 man content, early in a tier, tanks of all classes will commonly out DPS on trash pulls due to their very powerful AoE. 

 

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if you are looking at the DPS meter and trying to track why the Tank is doing more damage at lower lvl, it is beacuse of the new scaling system.

 

Veng is tank, but as he is 101 and your 107 everything is worked on a percentage base. therefore you see the mob with higher health as you are higher lvl, he sees the mobs with lower health, his attack takes 5% dmg on the mob at his lvl, to keep it balanced he takes 5% dmg off the mob at your lvl aswell, therefore on your meter he has taken 5% of the health of that mob...when in reality he has taken 5% off the mob at his lvl.

 

the scaling system has effectivly ruined the Dmg meters unless everyone in the group is the same lvl.

 

hope this helps solve your problem

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On 3.9.2016 at 3:37 PM, Quintessence said:

veng is tank, but as he is 101 and your 107 everything is worked on a percentage base. therefore you see the mob with higher health as you are higher lvl, he sees the mobs with lower health, his attack takes 5% dmg on the mob at his lvl, to keep it balanced he takes 5% dmg off the mob at your lvl aswell, therefore on your meter he has taken 5% of the health of that mob...when in reality he has taken 5% off the mob at his lvl.

Yeah, i realised this when i saw the mobs in different zones scale to my lvl when they were a lower lvl on my alt. And i understand (kinda) that mobs in dungeons must be scaled down for lower lvls, but i still think the scaling should be taken into consideration for correct dps charts on either skada or Recount. But i'm just on my own little quest to find the best dps class, both single target and multiple targets :)

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