Liarparadox 5 Report post Posted September 5, 2016 A few issues I'm curious about if anyone knows. First, is the 5 seconds buff on Backdraft a tooltip error? Because I'm only ever getting 3 seconds. It also seems the 3 (5) second buff doesn't stack, intended or not? Has the thinking about the talents changed at all since Furty put together the destro guide? I see Simcraft is using different talents. Is that because of T19 gear or is this a disagreement among theorycrafters? Or simply the difference between speccing for PW fights and real-world raid bosses? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guiche 0 Report post Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) its lower than 5 seconds because it gets reduced by haste. effectively limiting haste usefulness. Edited September 6, 2016 by guiche Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liarparadox 5 Report post Posted September 6, 2016 Ah, no way does haste decrease backdraft buff on purpose. I must be missing something because that amounts to haste debuffing locks who talent into backdraft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smacktard 2 Report post Posted September 7, 2016 Backdraft is considered the weakest talent in the tier for that exact reason, if I'm not mistaken. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liarparadox 5 Report post Posted September 8, 2016 That really sucks. What a stupid result of getting haste. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euko 0 Report post Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) If this was fully intended, it's likely because with lower haste you would get 5s of the buff, but because of lower haste you would probably still get a somewhat similar amount of casts off within that time. However you would get less uptime on the buff due to a less frequent use of conflag. It balances out and could quite possibly become more effective with haste if you keep what I just said in mind. Edited September 19, 2016 by Euko Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valks 2,375 Report post Posted September 20, 2016 14 hours ago, Euko said: If this was fully intended, it's likely because with lower haste you would get 5s of the buff, but because of lower haste you would probably still get a somewhat similar amount of casts off within that time. However you would get less uptime on the buff due to a less frequent use of conflag. It balances out and could quite possibly become more effective with haste if you keep what I just said in mind. A fair point. Definitely something to consider @Liarparadox. Thanks for putting this up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites