Zoltrix 0 Report post Posted September 14, 2016 Hello, I was wondering if the 10% increase to auto attack damage combined with the Haste + Crit outweighs a ring with mastery on it for a BM hunter? Does anyone know or is there somewhere I could join to find a discussion similar to this? Thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmaster299 5 Report post Posted September 15, 2016 Run it through some sims, that should answer that question for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valks 2,375 Report post Posted September 16, 2016 What item levels are the rings? What is the other stat on the 2nd ring? Lots of information missing here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoltrix 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2016 Sorry, should have included that. I was comparing the signet of Melandrus (+997 Stamina, + 808 Crit, +960 Haste w/ increase auto attack damage by 10%) with multiple other ilvl 840 rings that include +997 stamina, + 758 haste, +1011 mastery. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmaster299 5 Report post Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) 18 hours ago, Zoltrix said: Sorry, should have included that. I was comparing the signet of Melandrus (+997 Stamina, + 808 Crit, +960 Haste w/ increase auto attack damage by 10%) with multiple other ilvl 840 rings that include +997 stamina, + 758 haste, +1011 mastery. Again, run them through sims. That's the only way to get your answer. Anyone who would supply that answer to you directly will have gotten that answer by running them through a sim. Based on my best guess, swapping out the Mastery for Crit between those two rings will at the very least not be a DPS loss due to the extra auto attack damage and extra Haste. If you were perfectly optimized with Mastery>Haste on every single piece of gear, getting an upgrade that had Crit on it instead of Mastery would generally be a DPS increase because once you have high levels of your primary stat, in this case Mastery, you will get a greater DPS increase point for point from a stat you have very little of. For example, and these numbers do not reflect in game numbers, if you had say 3000 Mastery but only 300 Crit, and there was an upgrade that had another 300 crit on it compared to another piece that has 300 Mastery on it. The piece with the 300 Crit would offer a greater DPS increase because your total Crit is so low compared to your total Mastery. That DPS becomes even greater when that Crit piece has bonus damage on it like the 10% bonus damage to Auto Shots. Edited September 17, 2016 by jmaster299 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valks 2,375 Report post Posted September 20, 2016 A fair response from JM above, I'd sim it for you but I can't right now. Let me know if you don't know how to use Simcraft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoltrix 0 Report post Posted September 22, 2016 I'll learn how to do it, thanks for the responses guys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valks 2,375 Report post Posted September 25, 2016 No problem, hopefully it all went well. If you couldn't figure out how to get it working, let me know :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
