Sub returning player looking for some advices

[Annaky 0]

Hi guys,

First of all, sorry about my bad english, but i'll try to write well here.

I'm returning to play with my rogue and trying to get him to at least heroic contend on the atual content.

The guild made a run last night all through Normal EN and Nyth HC, and I was a little disappointed with my performance...

Can u guys help me?

I already saw that I could improve in SoD uptime, but i'm having problems with my energy management.

Any help you suggest I'll be very grateful.

 

Logs.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LZ1cJzvTB4pfWCQ8#type=summary&source=14&fight=7

Armory.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/azralon/Xmokÿ/advanced

 

Thanks in advance.

Annaky

[lipsinch 46]

You need proper pooling before SDancing. Since you have Master of Shadows, you can pop SD with 70e with no waste. That ensures you to hit at least 4 Shadowstrike + Finisher per SDance, or 3 SS + SoD reactivation.

Also, why you didn't pop your SBlades @ the opener? Uses a lot of energy to set up a Nightblade, when you could use almost the same amount of resources and pop twice the damage.

One last thing is your choice towards Akaari's Soul first. Why's that? You pass on more useful traits going to Akaari's Soul first than going to Finality.

[Annaky 0]

I cant use 4 SS + Finisher, maybe is because of low haste or unlucky with energy returning from finishers?

I was used to play with shadow priest in Draenor soo maybe is a addiction to set DoT's first, but I'll follow your sugestion and use SB on the opener.

The choice of Akaari's first, well I followed the guide here in Icy Vein's and there the path is to run that first and after run for Finality.

I'm at the moment one trait for reaching the Finality one, but had to change for outlaw for m+ runs with the guild...

 

I really appreciate your help and again sorry for the poor english.

 

Cheers.

 

Annaky.

[lipsinch 46]

1 hour ago, Annaky said:

I cant use 4 SS + Finisher, maybe is because of low haste or unlucky with energy returning from finishers?

I was used to play with shadow priest in Draenor soo maybe is a addiction to set DoT's first, but I'll follow your sugestion and use SB on the opener.

The choice of Akaari's first, well I followed the guide here in Icy Vein's and there the path is to run that first and after run for Finality.

I'm at the moment one trait for reaching the Finality one, but had to change for outlaw for m+ runs with the guild...

 

I really appreciate your help and again sorry for the poor english.

 

Cheers.

 

Annaky.

Chill, your english is fine. And yeah, perhaps the energy regen troubles a bit, but pooling might help you =)

Also, run Sub for everything! :D

[timmpah 1]

Hey, feelt like I needed to make an account just to help a fellow Sub out, I suggest using Vigor over Deeper Strategem as of now, until Nighthold comes and you can get the 4 set bonus.
Why you may ask? Well because you most likely will never be available to get 4 shadowstrikes in 1 Shadow Dance otherwise, unless you are lucky enough to get Shadow Satyr's Walk (Legendary sub boots) or if you have 2-3 relics for Energetic Stabbing

So 2-3 relics for energentic stabbing or legendary boots to use Deeper Strategem, well that's from my own personal experience as a sub rogue raiding mythic :)

Keep in mind by using 2-3 relics with Energentic stabbing, you are relying on rng, you either need 2 procs of energentic stabbing or 1 Proc from energenic stabbing and 1 proc from Relentless Strikes (with Deeper Strategem 6 Combo points) to get 4 Shadowstrikes of in 1 Shadow Dance.

Edited November 1, 2016 by timmpah

[Annaky 0]

Thank you guys, today I'll put in prove what u told me and see if my performance improves.

I'll post the logs here and lets see how it goes.

 

Cheers,

 

Annaky.

Edited November 4, 2016 by Annaky
Write something wrong '-'

[Annaky 0]

Hi guys,

Here I'm again...

Soo here is the logs from last night. (I'm xmoky by the way '-')

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BQYaqtTb4hpPn2Hd/#type=summary&source=14

Well, I'm a little more happy with sub after the raid.

But, I was thinking about attributes...

I see a lot of people rushing mastery all the way up (I'm doing this right now) is this the best for our spec? Because I dont think Versatility really usefull when u have a mastery like we have (pumping up our finishers is a really good one).

I have dropped my first legendary item after the kill of xavius Denial of the Half-Giants , I dont think this is a great one, but his attributes seens really nice.

I'll wait your help and analyses and tonight we have Heroic trys (GOD bless us '-')...

Ps. My nightblade uptime got down I little because I'm the raid leader of the group soo sometimes i really need to talk with someone or give the cordinates of the group, but that is no excuse for that.

Really thanks for all your help until now guys, and "may the force be with you".

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Annaky.

 

 

[Derby 15]

Mastery will be most everyone's highest-weighted stat, but Sub appreciates a balance of stats more than the other two specs.  Get as much as you can, but don' ignore the others.  Sim your character to get your stat weights and go from there.

Glad you like vigor!  It is an option if you are struggling with stratagem for now, but I suggest you practice energy pooling and get a better feel for running stratagem as it is the superior option ultimately.  Especially in AOE situations, which is a huge deal for M+ of course.

[lipsinch 46]

Looking at your logs, you would achieve higher DPS output if you just popped everything right off the bat. You still use Backstab to build up CPs, when you should be casting Shadowstrikes buffed with Shadow Blades. Also, avoid using Backstab whenever you're in SDance or about to pop it. Vigor gives you an erro margin, but you shouldn't get used to it, because DS is somewhat more rigorous with your energy.

And grats on your leg. =)