reso 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) Hi fellows hunters, I have some trouble with my Pawn; when i got a new piece with more mastery than haste vs my current,pawn tell me the piece with haste is better. I use Azort' Pawn strings for my current spec (BM) ,with mastery value>haste value... Any idea to solve this? Thx Edited October 29, 2016 by reso Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niix 169 Report post Posted October 31, 2016 I mean. It's not wrong. Mastery is not the only stat that gives a DPS increase. More haste does not mean bad. Stats other than mastery have value as well you know. So 1000 haste is better than 750 mastery as an example. Just because more stats is good in this case. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boogyness 1 Report post Posted October 31, 2016 On 30/10/2016 at 0:36 AM, reso said: I use Azort' Pawn strings for my current spec (BM) ,with mastery value>haste value... You should compute your own pawn string through simulationcraft. And update it each time you change a piece. Because equipment is different from a character to another, what Azort need to improve its DPS may not be what you need. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iridar 80 Report post Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Boogyness said: You should compute your own pawn string through simulationcraft. And update it each time you change a piece. Because equipment is different from a character to another, what Azort need to improve its DPS may not be what you need. I would expect Azor to account for this, and post a generic, public-friendly pawn string. But yes, simcrafting your own setup is always better. Edited October 31, 2016 by Iridar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reso 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2016 Ok, it was my bad, I didnt see the socket value in my items. Sorry. I dont know how simcraft work... Is it worth for me to use pawn (or this pawn strings)?thx PS: sorry for my poor english =p Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iridar 80 Report post Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) 15 minutes ago, reso said: Ok, it was my bad, I didnt see the socket value in my items. Sorry. I dont know how simcraft work... Is it worth for me to use pawn (or this pawn strings)?thx PS: sorry for my poor english =p Check out my basic simcraft guide: http://iridar.net/basic-simulationcraft-guide/ It's probably not worth getting into, unless you want to 100% optimize your character instead of 95% optimized. Not a big deal, really. Edited October 31, 2016 by Iridar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cupid 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2016 Hello Iridar, I've decided to start using the Simcraft Pawn string instead of the default one suggested by Azor. However what Fight style should I be choosing ? For example; on single target fights i'm simming Haste as the least preferred stat while on multi target fights it's the second best. Your advice here would be greatly helpful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iridar 80 Report post Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Cupid said: Hello Iridar, I've decided to start using the Simcraft Pawn string instead of the default one suggested by Azor. However what Fight style should I be choosing ? For example; on single target fights i'm simming Haste as the least preferred stat while on multi target fights it's the second best. Your advice here would be greatly helpful. Emerald Nightmare doesn't really have any fights with sustained AoE. Fights are either single target or spawn small adds that die very quickly, so there is no reason to optimize around AoE. Additionally, in the future, if there is a fight that requires sustained AoE, you can import both Pawn strings and swap out gear pieces based on situation. Or you can just take the two strings, average them out, and use one general purpose string for all situations. Edited November 6, 2016 by Iridar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Everth 0 Report post Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) Hi Iridar, could you by any chance share your Action Priority List for simcraft? I've been simming every time i get a new piece, only taking upgrades for pawn but my dps is not raising accordingly (gained 10 item levels). From when i started simming there have been 2 significant nerfs to the class, 20% barrage and 5% aimed shot. I know this could have something to do with having lower numbers. I want to ask, what do you think about MM single target now? He's in the last positions for boss damage on eg Xavius Edited November 8, 2016 by Everth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iridar 80 Report post Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Everth said: Hi Iridar, could you by any chance share your Action Priority List for simcraft? I've been simming every time i get a new piece, only taking upgrades for pawn but my dps is not raising accordingly (gained 10 item levels). From when i started simming there have been 2 significant nerfs to the class, 20% barrage and 5% aimed shot. I know this could have something to do with having lower numbers. I want to ask, what do you think about MM single target now? He's in the last positions for boss damage on eg Xavius Sure: It's probably not the best APL one could come up with, but it reflects my in-game playstyle and gives me realistic results. hunter="Sidewinders ST" level=110 race=human region=eu server= role=attack professions=leatherworking=747/engineering=711 talents=1113111 spec=marksmanship artifact=55:0:0:0:0:307:1:308:1:309:1:310:1:311:1:312:3:313:3:314:3:315:3:318:3:319:3:320:3:321:1:322:1:1337:1 head=,id=139214,bonus_id=1806/1507/3336 neck=,id=137311,enchant_id=5439,bonus_id=3416/1522/3336 shoulder=,id=139218,enchant_id=5443,bonus_id=1805/1487 back=,id=134405,bonus_id=3415/1512/3336 chest=,id=134462,bonus_id=3414/1532/3337 shirt=,id=11840 wrist=,id=137405,bonus_id=3414/1507/1813 hands=,id=138214,bonus_id=1806/1502 waist=,id=139212,bonus_id=1806/43/1502 legs=,id=142135,bonus_id=3453/1472 feet=,id=139219,bonus_id=1806/1502 finger1=,id=137055,enchant_id=5429,bonus_id=3459/3458,gem_id=130247 finger2=,id=142173,enchant_id=5425,bonus_id=3453/1472 trinket1=,id=134291,bonus_id=3397/1808/603/1512/3337,gem_id=130218 trinket2=,id=134203,bonus_id=3397/605/1497/3336 main_hand=,id=128826,bonus_id=727,relic_id=1805:1492:3336/3414:1522:3337/1806:1502,gem_id=139262/133687/139249/0 ### ACTION PRIORITY LIST # Executed before combat begins. Accepts non-harmful actions only. actions.precombat+=/summon_pet actions+=/volley actions.precombat=flask,type=flask_of_the_seventh_demon actions.precombat+=/food,type=Nightborne_Delicacy_Platter actions.precombat+=/augmentation,type=defiled actions.precombat+=/potion,name=deadly_grace actions.precombat+=/snapshot_stats actions.precombat+=/windburst # Executed every time the actor is available. actions=auto_shot actions+=/auto_shot actions+=/use_item,name=ring_of_collapsing_futures,if=buff.temptation.down actions+=/a_murder_of_crows actions+=/call_action_list,name=cooldowns actions+=/barrage actions+=/windburst actions+=/aimed_shot,if=debuff.hunters_mark.up&debuff.vulnerability.remains>cast_time actions+=/marked_shot actions+=/aimed_shot,if=debuff.vulnerability.remains>cast_time actions+=/sidewinders,if=buff.marking_targets.up|cooldown.sidewinders.charges_fractional>=1.8 actions.cooldowns=potion,name=deadly_grace,if=(buff.trueshot.react&buff.bloodlust.react)|buff.bullseye.react>=23 actions.cooldowns+=/trueshot,if=(buff.bloodlust.react|target.health.pct>20+(cooldown.trueshot.remains+15))|buff.bullseye.react>25 summon_pet=cat Pure single target MM seems more or less fine to me. It seems that in this expansion the strength of MM is not in pure single target damage, but in the ability to cleave an unlimited number of targets in a large cone without sacrificing any DPS on the primary target. Edited November 8, 2016 by Iridar 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Everth 0 Report post Posted November 8, 2016 You're the best iridar, thank you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iridar 80 Report post Posted November 8, 2016 46 minutes ago, Everth said: You're the best iridar, thank you! Not really, but glad I could help you out :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
