Zagam 1,982 Report post Posted July 18, 2013 Alright Warlocks (and some stray casters visiting the Warlock forums), here is some datamined Siege of Orgrimmar loot!Current list as of 7/29/2013WeaponsArcweaver Spell Sword - 8th boss, Haste/Crit 1H SwordGaze of Arrogance - 4th boss, Crit/Mastery 2H StaffLever of the Megantholithic Apparatus - 12th boss, Haste/Crit 2H StaffRik'kal's Bloody Scalpel - 13th boss, Hit/Crit 1H DaggerImmaculately Preserved Wand - 10th boss, Crit/Mastery 1H WandThoughts: bleh. Crit on every single piece. Only hit on one piece, and that one has Crit, so we'll likely be avoiding that dagger. Also note that the Crit/Mastery staff drops off of the 4th boss, but the other drops are off the 8th, 10th, 12th, and 13th bosses putting a pretty big gate on weapons for guilds that won't destroy all normals the first week.Off-HandsJuggernaut's Power Core - 6th boss, Crit/HasteFestering Primordial Globule - 11th boss, Hit/HasteRevelations of Y'Shaarj - 14th boss, Haste/MasteryThoughts: well, they rewarded us by giving us OH's without Crit, unlike on the weapons. This tier, it will be optimal to go MH/OH with that sexy Haste/Mastery OH.HelmsHood of the Horned Nightmare - Tier - Haste/Mastery5.4 Raid - Normal - Siege of Orgrimmar - Boss 14 Loot 2 - Cloth Int Hit Helm - 14th boss, Haste/MasteryFlameslinger's Fiery Cowl - 5th boss, Hit/HasteHood of Swirling Senses - 1st boss, Crit/MasteryThoughts: Tier helm is awesome. Get it.NecksUntainted Guardian's Chain - 3rd boss, Hit/MasteryAshflare Pendant - 7th boss, Hit/HasteThoughts: yay! Choose between Haste or Mastery! Also, one drops early at the 3rd boss while the second drops pretty early as well at the 7th boss. Neck slot won't be an issue in 5.4!ShouldersMantle of the Horned Nightmare - Tier - Crit/HasteCalamity Spike Shoulderpads - 2nd boss, Hit/MasterySpaudlers of Kor'kron Fealty - 8th boss, Hit/HasteRime-Rift Shoulders - 3rd boss, Crit/MasteryThoughts: good variety in shoulders. Tier is Crit/Haste.ChestRobes of the Horned Nightmare - Tier - Crit/MasteryRobes of the Tendered Heart - 2nd boss, Hit/HasteMantid Vizier's Robes 10th boss, Haste/CritAkolik's Acid-Soaked Robes - Crit/MasteryThoughts: Tier is Crit/Mastery. Crit on 3/4 chest pieces.BracersBracers of Sonic Projection - Crit/HasteBracers of Broken Causation - 3rd boss, Hit/MasteryScalebane Bracers - 5th boss, Hit/CritAvool's Ancestral Bracers - 10th boss, Haste/MasteryThoughts: yay! no more random enchantment bullshit. Those Haste/Mastery bracers look sexy. Shadow Priests will want the Haste/Mastery bracers as well Arcane and Frost Mages. Fire Mages will likely want the Hit/Crit version.GlovesGloves of the Horned Nightmare - Tier - Crit/MasteryFusespark Gloves - 12th boss, Crit/Mastery5.4 Raid - Normal - Siege of Orgrimmar - Trash Loot - Cloth Int Hit Gloves - trash drop, Hit/HasteMontak's Grips of Scorching Breath - 11th boss, Crit/HasteBlight Hurlers - 3rd boss, Hit/CritThoughts: wow, plenty of choices for gloves. Sadly, the best looking ones at the moment are the trash drop ones. Tier has Crit.BeltBelt of Ominous Trembles - 5th boss, Hit/MasteryMiasmic Skullbelt - 9th boss, Hit/CritThoughts: just like T15, there is only one belt we want. At least the Mages have a belt they will want that is different from ours now.BootsSha-Seared Sandals - 2nd boss, Hit/HasteBone-Inlaid Sandals - 6th boss, Haste/MasteryToxic Tornado Treads - 7th boss, Crit/MasteryThoughts: 1 awesome pair of boots, 1 decent pair, and 1 meh pair. Still, 2 pairs without Crit is better than what we saw this tier...LegsLeggings of the Horned Nightmare - Tier - Crit/MasteryLeggings of Furious Flame - 6th boss, Haste/MasteryThoughts: only one pair of non-tier legs released so far. They are delicious. The Tier legs, however, are not.RingsPetrified Pennyroyal Ring - 2nd boss, Hit/CritExtinguished Ember of Galakras - 5th boss, Hit/HasteIyyokuk's Hereditary Seal - 13th boss, Hit/Mastery5.4 Raid - Normal - Siege of Orgrimmar - Wildcard - Int Hit Ring - shared loot, Crit/HasteSignet of the Dinomancers - Haste/MasteryThoughts: going to want the two rings without Crit. Both have Hit, so reforge the Hit into the optimal stat it is missing so they both have Hit, Haste, and Mastery on them.TrinketsPurified Bindings of Immerseus - still no boss indicator of where it drops from, but name suggests first boss, Immerseus. Intellect proc + very nice passiveKardris' Toxic Totem - still no boss indicator of where it drops from. Crit + extra damage procFrenzied Crystal of Rage - still no boss indicator of where it drops from. Mastery + extra damage proc (AoE)Alpha and Omega - Haste + stacking Intellect proc5.4 Raid - Normal - Siege of Orgrimmar - Boss X Loot X - Int Hit Trinket (5) - still no boss indicator of where it drops from. Intellect + crit procThoughts: Amplification trinket looks pretty sexy. Int proc is huge. All of the other trinkets are subject to their ®PPM factors and how often they proc. Hard to analyze otherwise.Loot by Boss Chart1st boss - Crit/Mastery Helm2nd boss - Hit/Mastery Shoulders, Hit/Haste Chest, Hit/Haste Boots, Hit/Crit Ring3rd boss - Hit/Mastery Neck, Crit/Mastery Shoulders, Hit/Mastery Bracers, Hit/Crit Gloves4th boss - 2H Crit/Mastery Weapon5th boss - Hit/Haste Helm, Hit/Crit Bracers, Hit/Mastery Belt, Hit/Haste Ring6th boss - Crit/Haste OH, Haste/Mastery Legs, Haste/Mastery Boots7th boss - Hit/Haste Neck, Crit/Mastery Boots8th boss - 1H Haste/Crit Weapon, Hit/Haste Shoulders9th boss - Hit/Crit Belt10th boss - 1H Crit/Mastery Weapon, Hit/Crit Chest, Haste/Mastery Bracers11th boss - Hit/Haste OH, Crit/Haste Gloves12th boss - 2H Haste/Crit Weapon, Hit/Haste Gloves13th boss - 1H Hit/Crit Weapon, Hit/Mastery Ring14th boss - Haste/Mastery OH, Haste/Mastery HelmSince the trinkets aren't released yet, I'd think good spots for them to drop would be Boss 1, Boss 4, Boss 8, Boss 9, and Boss 11, 12, 13, or 14. We'll find out soon...Pretty awesome stuff. I'm enjoying the variety of gear and really enjoying seeing Haste and Mastery on a lot of pieces including the off-hands. Sadly each weapon has Crit on it, but the weapon doesn't have as much secondary stats as the off-hand, so it works out. The weapon contains spell power while the bulk of your Intellect and secondary stats will come from OH. Trinket selection is pretty easy. It's hard to analyze tier pieces at the moment because I'm unsure if the stats are staying the same or being modified. Also, the set bonuses are being tweaked, so seeing if the set bonuses are worth it is indefinite at the moment. EDIT: 8/5/2013: A very relaxed BiS-type profile analysis prioritizing Mastery > Haste > Crit and ignoring Hellscream Weapons/Off-Hand and all 5 Tier pieces Total Available Red Gems = 8 Total Available Yellow Gems = 4 Total Available Blue Gems = 3 Gem additions - 8 Artful = 640 Intellect/1280 Mastery, 4 Fractured = 1280 Mastery, 3 Sensei's = 480 Mastery/480 Hit + Socket Bonuses of 720 Intellect, 180 Crit, 120 Haste Enchant additions - 745 Intellect, 265 Crit, 310 Mastery After Reforging Total Base Intellect - 19161 Total Base Haste - 10889 Total Base Crit - 4504 Total Base Mastery - 10991 Total Base Hit - 5088 After Bonuses Total Base Intellect - 21266 Total Base Haste - 11351 Total Base Crit - 4949 Total Base Mastery - 14341 Total Base Hit - 5226 With Bindings bonus of 16% Haste + 16% Mastery Int - 21266 SP - 14225 Haste - 13167 Crit - 4949 Mastery - 16636 Hit - 5226 SP - 14225 Crit % = (21266/2533.6636) + (4949/600) = 8.39 + 8.24 + 5 = 21.63% Haste % = 30.98% Afflic Mastery % = 25 + 83.18 = 108.18% Demo Mastery % = 8 + 27.73 = 35.73% (107.19% in Meta) Destruction Mastery % = 8 + 27.73 = 35.73% for Incinerate, Immo, and Conflag (107.19% for Chaos Bolt and Shadowburn) Raid buffed SP - 39040 Crit = 26.63% Haste = 37.53% Demo Mastery = 40.73% (122.19% in Meta) Afflic Mastery = 123.18% Destro Mastery = 40.73% (122.19% for Chaos Bolt and Shadowburn) 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenaye 9 Report post Posted July 18, 2013 That Amplification buff... holy shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JvChequer 43 Report post Posted July 18, 2013 A shame they nerf the DS just because this buff, they should made a new trinket, not nerfed a hability because of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alphric 7 Report post Posted July 19, 2013 I'm excited about a sword woepen so that I can transmogrify it into dang of twilight for when I get my challenge mode gear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sifon 25 Report post Posted July 19, 2013 A shame they nerf the DS just because this buff, they should made a new trinket, not nerfed a hability because of it. DS isn't nerfed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khaos 5 Report post Posted July 19, 2013 Only thing i have to say is .... Crit. Crit EVERYWHERE. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alphric 7 Report post Posted July 19, 2013 If there's one thing blizzard likes its big ol' critties 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khaos 5 Report post Posted July 19, 2013 It's everywhere. i can count on my fingers how many haste /mastery int stuff there is , which is like 3-4 this tier. -_- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,982 Report post Posted July 19, 2013 I'm excited about a sword woepen so that I can transmogrify it into dang of twilight for when I get my challenge mode gear. I am doing the EXACT same thing. Got the Heroic version and it matches so beautifully with the gear...I was contemplating taking that Spirit sword from Jin'rokh just to use the xmog haha Only thing i have to say is .... Crit. Crit EVERYWHERE. There is a much higher variety of pieces without Crit than we faced this tier. Sure, Crit is on every weapon, but as stated in my original post, a higher portion of the secondary stats comes from your off-hand, of which we have much better options than we had in T15. It's everywhere. i can count on my fingers how many haste /mastery int stuff there is , which is like 3-4 this tier. Remember, you need some Hit on your gear. Try to look at the pieces with Hit/Haste and Hit/Mastery as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khaos 5 Report post Posted July 19, 2013 I do , and that's not so good either because hit levels are way too high, i end up with 3-4k hit before reforging Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Desos 18 Report post Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) since wowhead provides us now with some names for the trinkets, it should be safe to say that 1# comes from Immerseus(1. boss) and #2 from the Korkron Dark Shamans(7. boss) Such an awesome trinket right from the first boss, seems a lot of people will get happy a lot earlier this content Edited July 26, 2013 by check0790 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,982 Report post Posted July 26, 2013 I'm going to update this list with the names of items very soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khaos 5 Report post Posted July 28, 2013 Tier has crit on 3 / 5 pieces -_- , at least there's no hit. http://ptr.wowdb.com/item-sets/1181-t16-ph-warlock 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,982 Report post Posted July 29, 2013 Currently updating all of the names/stats. Should be done within the hour. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JvChequer 43 Report post Posted July 29, 2013 Why not 1 minute? - Asian father Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladamyr 169 Report post Posted July 29, 2013 I'm a fire mage and I approve this crit gear errr.... message. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,982 Report post Posted July 29, 2013 Tier has crit on 3 / 5 pieces , at least there's no hit. http://ptr.wowdb.com...-t16-ph-warlock The wowhead ptr shows Crit on everything except Helm. I have the list updated. Also, trinkets are updated. Looks like the % to cleave or multi-hit has been increased, but I still haven't found any released RPPM or proc rate numbers to analyze yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sifon 25 Report post Posted July 29, 2013 Gloves of the Horned Nightmare WowDB says haste-mastery for gloves, hopefully its true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JvChequer 43 Report post Posted July 29, 2013 I'm the only sad that the "Warlock T16 Transmog belt" have Crit and our BIS with Mastery is the mage one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,982 Report post Posted July 29, 2013 I'm the only sad that the "Warlock T16 Transmog belt" have Crit and our BIS with Mastery is the mage one? You actually show the gear you are wearing? I un-transmogged 3 days ago, suffered a short stroke, and Alt-f4'd out of there. I came back and everything was ok. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JvChequer 43 Report post Posted July 29, 2013 You actually show the gear you are wearing? I un-transmogged 3 days ago, suffered a short stroke, and Alt-f4'd out of there. I came back and everything was ok. Don't know how T16 will be in Troll Model, T15 it's fine but T14 it's just amazing, mainly because don't show the tusks xD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khaos 5 Report post Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) http://ptr.wowdb.com...orned-nightmare have haste/mastery , not crit/mastery Edited July 30, 2013 by Khaos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,982 Report post Posted July 30, 2013 http://ptr.wowdb.com...orned-nightmare have haste/mastery , not crit/mastery Yeah wowdb and wowhead are in disagreement. I'm thinking (and hoping) the wowdb database is more accurate here. Not usually 4 pieces of tier with the same secondary stat on it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sifon 25 Report post Posted July 30, 2013 Yeah wowdb and wowhead are in disagreement. I'm thinking (and hoping) the wowdb database is more accurate here. Not usually 4 pieces of tier with the same secondary stat on it. But if it ever happens, it has to be crit :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JvChequer 43 Report post Posted August 2, 2013 Looks like all Garrosh loot will be or Warforged or 8ilvl higher. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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