Hotfix to 2pc and Dire Frenzy

[HardlyWorkingIT 0]

What do you guys think, is the 10% damage to our main pet while having the 2 piece make Dire Frenzy more viable then Stomp? I know it may take a bit for the BM page to be updated to reflect this change but wanted to get a conversation started about it now.

[Sharknad0 67]

Unfortunately, it looks like we will have to wait for the next sim build. I have the 2-piece and here is what my sims came up with:

 

Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/korgath/Postinator/simple

100k parses used, patchwerk, single target encounter:

Avg DPS with Stomp = 486,387

Avg DPS with Frenzy = 475,263

 

Pretty sure the current build would not reflect this recent change, so these numbers would be inaccurate. Hopefully we will get a new build soon, but I will be testing on dummies tonight to see if I can get a noticeable difference. Since so many fights have adds for cleave though, I am probably sticking with stomp, unless it is a sizeable difference.

[Luthixx 138]

It'll be back to the same principle, stomp for AoE and frenzy for ST. Looking like the shoulders are far more powerful now too. 

[Khallid 110]

Without sims, my logs showed that the contribution of Dire Beast (melee + stomp) raised from around 13% to around 16% when equipping the 2-piece bonus (no 4-piece) for single target. My main pet does a bit over 40% of my total dps, so I would expect a 10% increase to main pet damage to be at least 4% increase to total dps. Probably a bit higher, since removing Dire Beast from the damage table will increase the proportion of damage coming from the main pet.

 

I don't mean to claim those are accurate numbers, but based on real data both 2-piece effects should be somewhat comparable. I'd expect Dire Frenzy to be slightly above stomp for single target.

[Sharknad0 67]

Working the dummy myself, I noticed a significant drop when using dire frenzy over stomp, and that was single target. I do not feel as though Dire Frenzy is worth it, even single target after hot fix. That is just what I got with my set-up though.

Just a fun fact as well, I did sims with hands that were 8% better than my 2-piece hands, removing the 2-piece bonus, and lost 12k DPS. So it looks like it could mean taking a pretty significant drop in ilvl / stats would still yield better results with the 2-piece bonus.

Edited February 8, 2017 by Postman024

[Khallid 110]

The 10% damage increase for 15 seconds applies when you use Bestial Wrath, not when you use Dire Frenzy, so the uptime of this buff is the same as Bestial Wrath, not a straight 10% increase.

Edited February 9, 2017 by Khallid

[Luthixx 138]

Also worth noting that the 10% isn't a stacking buff. Stomp is still better as you get more out of it the more procs you get.