[Ret] Trying to eek out more DPS (iLvl 886)

[MayorMayo 1]

Howdy howdy!

 

• Requisite armory link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/Mayo/simple
• Requisite most recent parse: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/93755/latest
• Am I following the Icy Veins rotation? Yup, for the most part, unless I have a brain fart.

With that out of the way, I want to start by saying that I’m not unsatisfied by my DPS, but I know that I can do more / do better. 

I’ve got two of the best legendaries (Ashes to Dust & Chain of Thrayn), two of what I think are the best trinkets. I’ve got the Claw of the Crystalline Scorpid (880) and the Entwined Elemental Foci (890) but don’t use them currently because my sims are showing Convergence of Fates (895) & Might of Krosus (895) being ~7-10k higher, but I’m very open to hearing if maybe the sims aren’t as accurate as I’d like to think they are.

I’m just... stuck on how to get there. I was hoping that I could get some sage advice from other paladins in here.

All of your thoughts are most appreciated.

Thanks,

Mayo 

Edited February 20, 2017 by MayorMayo

[Antipater 3]

Howdy,

Well, you're definitely correct in that you should be doing  more damage for your gear, stats and ilvl. 

Your stats are ok, but you would likely benefit much more from a lower haste and higher crit/vers, as you do not have the legendary cloak. 21% or so haste is perfectly fine for your gear and legendaries, so maybe try that stat build and it will help. 

Your trinket choices are wrong i believe, and whatever way you are simming wont be accurate. CotCS is actually extremely good, and on add fights it is great, procing often and also giving you a massive Str boost. I would also try and farm for FCM if you havent got it yet. It still stacks so well with Crusade that it cant be ignored. 

Rotation for us, espeically in NH, is not set in stone. However, i find i gain the best burst, followed by sustainabillity by following the following rotation:

DH (I pop this at the same time as my potion, so that its off cd faster at the start) > Judge/Crus > TV (If you have ring, CS if not, then TV) > WoA > TV > DH > TV > CS > TV and so on. Always prioritize your DH/BoW over CS/Zeal, and use Judgement on CD, ensuring to only TV when boss has the debuff. 

A massive issue im seeing in a lot of paladins is not being able to adapt to different situations. Regulating a timing Crusade can be massive, and i difference between ok damage and great damage. Always try and time it for instances where you have another buff, such as TW, or haste buff on Chromatic or Elisandre. Use it at the start of fights for burst, but learn fights and be able to save it if needs be fore it to be most effective. 

With that being said. Your damage isnt terrible,. id say just below average, which is ok at the moment. With learning the fights more you will be able to maximize your damage at better times. 

I think you should try the following:

1) Change talents to FoJ and DH instead of FoJ and BoW. Maybe try zeal as your haste is so high atm. 

2) Farm VotW for FCM and stack it with CotCS, especially on add heavy fights, ensuring your Crusade and FCM are bound together.

(#showtooltip Crusade
/cast Crusade
/use Faulty Countermeasure)

3) Work on your rotation in order to get to 15 stacks of crusade asap, and maximize your crusade effectiveness. 

Hope this helps!

Any questions or issues let me know!

Cheers,

[MayorMayo 1]

Hi Antipater,

 

First and foremost, thank you very much for the awesome reply. I took a lot of it to heart and played around with both my spec and my gear in a few M+ last night. I logged out with the updated gear / trinket changes - have a look at http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggramar/Mayo/simple to see in detail (swapped out boots, ring, trinket).

During the M+ runs, I tried the Zeal & DH (one with both, one with just DH), and I still got better single and two-target DPS out of my current spec - by a substantial amount (15-30k). Trash packs and bosses with add phases, DH made a big impact but Zeal had almost none.

My guild's next regular raid night is Thursday, so I'm going to play a bit with everything again during that evening and I'll post the parses here. I've also got 5 coins ready to go for some key upgrades that will take me out of having too much haste past the soft cap, and adding more vers/crit. I'm also going to spend the week farming up FC. I may not use it if it's only the 830 version, as I'd be dropping 1900 STR for maybe, what, 4-5% haste from that particular trinket (assuming the stars align well), whereas other gear changes could pay off better.

All of that said, I sincerely thank you for the advice. It's given me a great deal to think about and play with.

Cheers,

Mayo

Edited February 21, 2017 by MayorMayo
Weird double-spacing.

[MayorMayo 1]

Just wanted to pop in and say thanks again. To say that I saw a marked improvement would be an understatement. Here's the parse: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FjyZcGfApBtnQ91b/

Huge improvement tonight. Check out the parse for Tichondrius. Huge improvement.

Thanks again!