holsinger 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2013 Just out of curiosity, but why is shadowbolt's cast time longer than the usual filler spell? Over two seconds for a spell that is not incredibly powerful to begin with seems off to me. Have I missed blizzard's explanation as to the justification? Again, this is just me thinking out loud. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JvChequer 43 Report post Posted September 7, 2013 Because Demo have a really slow playstyle out of meta. Demo it`s just about having fun in meta and while you are in caster form remember how fun was when you was in meta. Or something like that. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demonolish 0 Report post Posted September 7, 2013 you do have a point but it was made so you would hate your unmitamorphise state and sink into the depths of your demonic ways and persue gaining demonic POWAAHH! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khaos 5 Report post Posted September 7, 2013 Because demon form man! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kazistrasz 216 Report post Posted September 7, 2013 MG's cast time is longer than Shadowbolt, no? It just happens to tick while it channels. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khaos 5 Report post Posted September 7, 2013 But that's a channel , not a cast time! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kazistrasz 216 Report post Posted September 7, 2013 Same thing, takes a while. Honestly, I like Shadowbolt. A filler isn't supposed to hit hard, but SB does have a decent sized number, just its split into 3. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omaric 246 Report post Posted September 7, 2013 I don't know about you guys, but I kind of like having a longer casting spell in my rotation because GCD capping every spell sucks.... MIRITE!!!????? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JvChequer 43 Report post Posted September 7, 2013 I don't know about you guys, but I kind of like having a longer casting spell in my rotation because GCD capping every spell sucks.... MIRITE!!!????? Don't like at all because without the KJC, lose a 2.5sec cast really break my heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kazistrasz 216 Report post Posted September 7, 2013 Don't like at all because without the KJC, lose a 2.5sec cast really break my heart. Perhaps by managing your fury better, especially now that UVLS will be out and we can be more liberal with our use of Meta, you can avoid being in caster form during a period where you're likely to have to move by building up extra fury ahead of time on a fight where you can't take KJC. Of course, there is just taking KJC. P.S., do we know how bad the DPET of Fel Flame is on PTR compared to that of SB? They both give the same DF generation rate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JvChequer 43 Report post Posted September 7, 2013 I think the main problem between FF and SB is the mana cost of that much of FF. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kazistrasz 216 Report post Posted September 8, 2013 Pft, I can just ask our Guardian tank for his Innervate. Not like healers need mana. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omaric 246 Report post Posted September 8, 2013 Depending on my total DF generation throughout a fight, I think the standard amount of Life Taps I actually cast are under 5. Mana hasn't really been an issue. But, that could change in the patch when we aren't swimming and laughing side by side with our horde of Wild Imps, we'll see... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,982 Report post Posted September 9, 2013 Mana of Fel Flame isn't an issue. Take this to the bank: if Fel Flame becomes a better spammer than Shadow Bolt for Demonology, Fel Flame will be nerfed or Shadow Bolt will have some change so that it is better. Which do you think will happen? A nerf or a buff? Don't get excited about mashing a button as fast as you can to build DF. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kazistrasz 216 Report post Posted September 9, 2013 I'm not suggesting the substitution of Fel Flame for Shadow Bolt in our regular rotation. I'm just thinking about the value of KJC. If Fel Flame's DPET is close to SB, then IMO the value of KJC is very minimal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JvChequer 43 Report post Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) I'm not suggesting the substitution of Fel Flame for Shadow Bolt in our regular rotation. I'm just thinking about the value of KJC. If Fel Flame's DPET is close to SB, then IMO the value of KJC is very minimal. For Both Demonology and Destruction, yes. For affliction, not at all. Btw, FF is a filler for Destro as Brusalk said in your MMO Champion's guide. Incinerate is only worth it to spend with haste procs as Meta-gem's or Bloodlust or Blackdraft. IB4 FF nerf Edited September 9, 2013 by JvChequer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites