wow Ex-Serenity Members to Form a New Guild

[Stan 5,239]

Several Serenity members joined Method recently, but it doesn't seem to be the end. Slootbag confirmed on Twitch that some Serenity members (Naguura included) are forming a new guild for Mythic Tomb of Sargeras progression on Twisting Nether (EU - Horde), but haven't decided the name just yet.

According to a reddit post, they won't be competing for world firsts and instead, they're looking for a place in the Top 10 - 20. Time commitments will be 50% less than what they were in Serenity and each raider only needs to maintain 2 geared characters (down from 5).

The guild will still be hardcore and raid 7 days a week (6 hours a day) during the first weeks of ToS progression. The roster's only missing healers and recruitment may be open soon.

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[Guest]

Wuha, the new guild has only 50% time commitment - and that is still 6 hours a day?

Meaning the previously had 12 hours a day, 7 days a week?

Seems a little excessive IMO.

[Bladehawk 6]

38 minutes ago, WedgeAntilles said:

Wuha, the new guild has only 50% time commitment - and that is still 6 hours a day?

Meaning the previously had 12 hours a day, 7 days a week?

Seems a little excessive IMO.

The World First race is about time more than anything else. No matter how good your strats may be, you need time to go through the process of trial and error that's required to beat these bosses before anyone else. No wonder Serenity had roster problems during Nighthold; you get burnt out quick. 

This new guild (which I'm half-hoping has a serious name, half-hoping has a silly name based on Sloot, Naguura, or a combination thereof) seems to be taking a much healthier approach. Compete at the top end, but don't go for World First. Stream progression to offer something no one else does, while also potentially acting as a release valve for 6 hours of pent-up stress and frustration. This also serves as somewhat of an experiment on whether streaming elite Mythic progression is interesting or worthwhile. Some people claim that Blizz should incentivize and broadcast the WF race as another "esport", but many top raiders have said it wouldn't be fun to watch. I agree with them, but we'll see how much truth there is to that with this new guild.

Edited May 27, 2017 by Bladehawk

[Calysia 229]

47 minutes ago, WedgeAntilles said:

Wuha, the new guild has only 50% time commitment - and that is still 6 hours a day?

Meaning the previously had 12 hours a day, 7 days a week?

Seems a little excessive IMO.

And that's not even including the time it takes to keep five characters geared for that level of play plus consumables, etc.

[Bjorn 2]

Wow keeping 5 characters geared. That's nuts, I struggle with keeping 2 let alone 5.

[Yridaa 490]

On 5/27/2017 at 9:36 PM, Bjorn said:

Wow keeping 5 characters geared. That's nuts, I struggle with keeping 2 let alone 5.

5 for beyond cutting edge mythic raiding (They all need to be able to perform at the top 1% or so). Of course even "regular" hardcore mythic raiders keep cutting edge gear on their chars for their raids, these world first guilds always go the extra mile just to squeeze out another extra ilvl, socket and if possible, leech (Any 0.5 % a healer doesn't have to heal is a blessing).

 

The real caveat in this case is having bis legendaries for all 5 classes before the raid starts with top traits on their artifacts (Although they're probably fine now with Concordance, this was a lot trickier getting to 36 traits at the start of ToT, for 5 chars.)

 

With 7.2.5 the latter will be an even larger issue IF the new legendaries end up performing better than one or more current legendaries - these guys are cutting it down to 2 so it's not terrible, but if other world first guilds also run 4-6 chars they're probably dreading the news about more legendaries getting released all the time.

 

Icy-Veins here has a really great interview post somewhere here (Probably back from 7.1.0 or 7.1.5) with one of the top class world first raiders - and they hated the artifact system on top of the legendary system. The reasoning being that, even if you're lucky to get your bis legendaries right away, you still need to grind for many, many weeks to max out the traits. Of course, again, this point is moot now as with 35+ AK, even a casual can get concordance on one character in a few weeks. ToS is probably looking close to opening around the 40 AK mark, which will mean it's going to be "effortless" for hardcore raiders to get the first 1-3 points in concordance, even if it's on 4-6 chars before ToS gets released, likely already 8-10 points during ToS release.