wow Pre-ToS Tier 20 Set Bonus Tuning

[Starym 3,800]

 

More tuning going on ahead of next week's Tomb of Sargeras grand opening, and this time we have set bonus changes for a whole lot for specs. There's buffs, nerfs and a surprising amount of 2 and 4 piece bonuses getting swapped around so close to the raid release, so let's just get into it:

Seph (source)

Greetings,

Along with the launch of Patch 7.2.5 we are making tuning adjustments to a number of soon-to-be-available Tier 20 set bonuses. The target is as usual, relative power balance between Tier 20 set bonuses of different classes/specs and with the previous tier's set bonuses.

Note that this is the round of Tier 20 tuning we're doing before Tomb opens, and we may make further adjustments as needed once Tomb opens and we have more live data.

Death Knight - Frost

• T20 Frost 2P Bonus: Requires 60 Runic Power (up from 40) spent per 1 sec of duration increase to Pillar of Frost.

Druid - Balance

• T20 Balance 4P Bonus: Total buff duration increased to 20 sec (up from 15 sec).

Druid - Feral

• T20 Feral 2P Bonus: Rip generates 1 Energy (down from 2) when it deals damage.
• T20 Feral 4P Bonus: Rip deals 10% (down from 15%) increased damage and lasts 4 sec (down from 8 sec) longer.

Mage - Frost

• T20 Frost 2P Bonus: Critical strike damage bonus granted reduced to 20% (down from 30%).

Hunter - Marksmanship

• T20 Marksmanship 4P Bonus: Aimed Shot reduces the cast time and focus cost of your next Aimed Shot by 8% (down from 15%). Buff duration reduced to 6 sec (down from 12 sec).

Monk - Windwalker

• 2pc: Swapped with 4pc and is now: Rising Sun Kick critical strikes reduce the cooldown of Fists of Fury by 3 sec (up from 2 sec).
• 4pc: Swapped with 2pc and is now: "When Fists of Fury ends, the critical strike chance of Rising Sun Kick is increased by 65% (up from 50%) for 5 sec."

Paladin - Retribution

• 2pc: Swapped with 4pc and is now: "Judgment increases Blade of Justice damage by 15% for 8 sec."
• 4pc: Swapped with 2pc and is now: "Blade of Justice generates 1 additional Holy Power."

Priest - Shadow

• T20 Shadow 4P Bonus: Insanity drains 10% slower (down from 15%) while in Voidform. Insanity drains 5% slower (down from 10%) while in Voidform if you have Surrender to Madness talent.

Rogue - Assassination

• 2pc: Swapped with 4pc and is now: "Garrote costs 25 less Energy and has 12 sec reduced cooldown."
• 4pc: Swapped with 2pc and is now: "Garrote deals 60% (up from 30%) increased damage."

Rogue - Outlaw

• T20 Outlaw 2P Bonus: Pistol Shots increase your critical strike chance by 5% (down from 10%) for 8 sec.
• T20 Outlaw 4P Bonus: Half-power Adrenaline Rush duration reduced to 8 sec (down from 10 sec).

Shaman - Elemental

• 2pc: Swapped with the 4pc and is now: "Reduce the cooldown of Fire Elemental by 3 sec (Storm Elemental by 1.5 sec) when Flame Shock periodic damage deals a critical strike. This effect may occur once every 1 sec."
• 4pc: Swapped with the 2pc and is now: "While Fire Elemental [or Storm Elemental] is active, your Flame Shock deals 40% increased damage over time and always critically strikes."

Warlock - Affliction

• T20 Affliction 2P Bonus: Soul Shards generated from Corruption damage reduced to 0.65+Haste per minute (down from 1.2+Haste per minute).

Warrior - Arms

• T20 Arms 4P Bonus: Now casts a total of 3 (down from 6) Mortal Strikes during Bladestorm and a total of 2 (down from 4) Mortal Strikes during Ravager.

June 13th hotfixes / 7.2.5 Patch notes.

[AartS 14]

And again, Blizzard gives MM a 50% nerf before the effects are even seen on live. Why do this PTR nonsense if they're to afraight to try and see how it works out for real instead of simulations?

Last time it was the Unerring Arrows trait 50% nerf before people had the chance to try its full effect, now Tier20 4P bonus.... makesmefeelsad :(

Edited June 14, 2017 by AartS

[Arhol 0]

Another nerf to T20 for frosts :C? Is this some kind of joke? For extra 15 sec of pillar i need 60 sec breath? With so heavy movement fights,lose from T19 where it will be possible to cast long enough breath? From the possible middle of the pack to very bottom,thx blizz.

[alleraz 11]

1 hour ago, Arhol said:

Another nerf to T20 for frosts :C? Is this some kind of joke? For extra 15 sec of pillar i need 60 sec breath? With so heavy movement fights,lose from T19 where it will be possible to cast long enough breath? From the possible middle of the pack to very bottom,thx blizz.

I can easily cast 60 sec breaths without the t19 4 piece... u should still be able to get 50%+ uptime from pillar on most fights. It just means you'll have to work in Frost Strike more often between BoS CDs (and maybe see if u can sneak some in during BoS).

Edited June 14, 2017 by alleraz

[demonardvark 556]

4 hours ago, alleraz said:

I can easily cast 60 sec breaths without the t19 4 piece... u should still be able to get 50%+ uptime from pillar on most fights. It just means you'll have to work in Frost Strike more often between BoS CDs (and maybe see if u can sneak some in during BoS).

^This.

The change is kind of poopy but not earth shatteringly bad. 

[alleraz 11]

1 hour ago, demonardvark said:

^This.

The change is kind of poopy but not earth shatteringly bad. 

To be honest I'm surprised they didnt put a cap on how much STR increase the T20 4 piece gives... Right now it seems we could get 20%+ more str from pillar (though that'll be hard to do).

Edited June 14, 2017 by alleraz

[MrEdren 114]

7 hours ago, AartS said:

And again, Blizzard gives MM a 50% nerf before the effects are even seen on live. Why do this PTR nonsense if they're to afraight to try and see how it works out for real instead of simulations?

Last time it was the Unerring Arrows trait 50% nerf before people had the chance to try its full effect, now Tier20 4P bonus.... makesmefeelsad :(

Because the potential effects are too serious to risk.  If they leave things too powerful, Mythic gets farmed in the first week.  If they nerf things too much, you end up with C'thun 2.0 where nobody can kill anything.  

[demonardvark 556]

57 minutes ago, alleraz said:

To be honest I'm surprised they didnt put a cap on how much STR increase the T20 4 piece gives... Right now it seems we could get 20%+ more str from pillar (though that'll be hard to do).

that may actually be intentional, with the nerf to blast radius, and the loss of Tier 19 bonus, having the Tier 20 4 set be powerful could be intentional to help offset power loss. even then although blizzard said i believe in WoD they dont' like there being huge gaps in player dps (ie some boomkins were doing 80k others were doing 300k (example)) skillful use of the bonus may be a reward kind of thing. so yes it can be powerful but you have to work harder to make better use of it

ultimately just musing i s'pose *shrugs*

[alleraz 11]

12 minutes ago, demonardvark said:

that may actually be intentional, with the nerf to blast radius, and the loss of Tier 19 bonus, having the Tier 20 4 set be powerful could be intentional to help offset power loss. even then although blizzard said i believe in WoD they dont' like there being huge gaps in player dps (ie some boomkins were doing 80k others were doing 300k (example)) skillful use of the bonus may be a reward kind of thing. so yes it can be powerful but you have to work harder to make better use of it

ultimately just musing i s'pose *shrugs*

The nerf to blast radius only affected my AoE dps, my single target is the same so interms of power loss on raid bosses I dont really have any, thats not including the lost of the T19 4 piece though which will be a slight power loss.

I do agree it does make Frost more intresting to play with the T20 set bonuses since you actually have to work to get the best out of the set, but thats not a bad thing since Frost is generally easy to play and this added layer just spices things up a bit.

[demonardvark 556]

2 hours ago, alleraz said:

I do agree it does make Frost more intresting to play with the T20 set bonuses since you actually have to work to get the best out of the set, but thats not a bad thing since Frost is generally easy to play and this added layer just spices things up a bit.

I agree with your agreement 

[MaRtocZz 0]

Frost DK:

We were friends Blizzard. Seems like this is going to turn.