Another Empty Crown question

[MrEdren 114]

Kinda piggybacking on the 'not too shabby' thread, I'm curious to get opinions here - 

http://us.battle.net/wow/character/archimonde/Edren/

So with this setup, I have too much haste. Like, way too much.  What do you think about dropping the tier helm and swapping to the Crown?  It would fix 3 stat issues at once (haste/crit/mastery), but I can't quite figure out how much of a loss it would be to lose either the shoulders or boots.  I've run it 5 different ways and it comes out as a near-wash with every permutation. 

Thoughts?

[Carrn 284]

3 hours ago, MrEdren said:

Kinda piggybacking on the 'not too shabby' thread, I'm curious to get opinions here - 

http://us.battle.net/wow/character/archimonde/Edren/

So with this setup, I have too much haste. Like, way too much.  What do you think about dropping the tier helm and swapping to the Crown?  It would fix 3 stat issues at once (haste/crit/mastery), but I can't quite figure out how much of a loss it would be to lose either the shoulders or boots.  I've run it 5 different ways and it comes out as a near-wash with every permutation. 

Thoughts?

I wouldn't ditch the shoulders for anything, they're super strong. 

I don't think that Energy is much of an issue with Sin, so I'm not really convinced that the helmet is a good replacement for Shoulders + Bracers/Boots, but it's not a bad substitute. 

As I said in the other thread, if you're performing about the same with it compared to the other legendaries, and you like how it feels more, you should play with it. 

[MrEdren 114]

4 hours ago, Carrn said:

I wouldn't ditch the shoulders for anything, they're super strong. 

I don't think that Energy is much of an issue with Sin, so I'm not really convinced that the helmet is a good replacement for Shoulders + Bracers/Boots, but it's not a bad substitute. 

As I said in the other thread, if you're performing about the same with it compared to the other legendaries, and you like how it feels more, you should play with it. 

Yeah that's the part I don't really get - KB lines up with vendetta pretty well, energy isn't really an issue in that window most of the time.  Maybe the intent is to give you a way to spec out of venom rush or something.

[Meltrump 2]

You forget one thing though :) Vendetta and KB might line up and provide a energy gain to keep Envenom buff up during KB. BUT if you use TB with KB (like you should) you have a 8sec window where you wanna fit in as many Envenoms as possible (for the 35% extra damage) which often are not many duo to shortage of energy. The energy gain from Leg Crown helps with that - making very powerful burst windows possible.

Edited July 21, 2017 by Meltrump

[MrEdren 114]

3 hours ago, Meltrump said:

You forget one thing though :) Vendetta and KB might line up and provide a energy gain to keep Envenom buff up during KB. BUT if you use TB with KB (like you should) you have a 8sec window where you wanna fit in as many Envenoms as possible (for the 35% extra damage) which often are not many duo to shortage of energy. The energy gain from Leg Crown helps with that - making very powerful burst windows possible.

Good point. I'll have to try that out.