MW 5.4 Crit

[Nicksonc20 0]

My main question is about that in 5.4 crit seems to be to stat to stack. The reason for this is the new mana tea is the best I can gather?

 

I couldn't seem to find a current stat weight (specifically for Mr.Robot) of how much spirit and haste should be gotten before I should start stacking just crit.

 

Here is my armory http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/thrall/Monksonius/simple

 

And my Mr.Roboto http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/usa/thrall/monksonius

 

I'm not sure if you can read my weights on that Robto page or not.

 

I read the the spirit I should cap at is 5100 but other than that I can not find an exact weight of what stats I need to focus on after that.

 

Sorry, if I'm being dumb and missed this somewhere else in the forums.

 

Thanks in advance though for any answers.

[Krazyito 521]

So, crit has been the stat to stack since Throne of thunder came out. (Maybe even before then in really high gear levels) since crit gives you more mana tea and does more healing than haste or mastery.

 

http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/0100c5e5-43ec-40a1-a0d5-84f5194b7e05

 

Basically you should stack crit and keep a low spirit build.

 

I'm going to completely re-vamp the Mr. robot weights soon because I feel that +120 int socket bonus might count for something, or at the very least to make them more "readable"

[Nicksonc20 0]

So I read that the highest you want your spirit is 5100 if you have the Legendary Meta Gem. Should I add that as a hard cap on spirit? Somone else In my guild said I should aim for the 6414 haste. Should I do that or would I be wasting too many gems on haste to get there?

 

Also, with how much stacking up and aoe'ing in SoO is RJW better than Xuen?

Edited October 15, 2013 by Nicksonc20

[Brewmonksta 157]

IMO you go for the highest haste breakpoint that requires less than maybe 4 gems(just made this up) and you dont drop below 35% ish crit.

 

Im at the 9158 breakpoint with 33.6% crit and it works for me. I set my mr robot spirit to 5K but i have 8900 even though im reforging out of it on all my pieces except 1.

 

RJW can have its uses but i find it can be very mana intensive so i find i am only using it during meta procs or Thok.

 

Most of the normal SoO fights i have used Xuen for the extra dps (Korvens amber casing on paragons, Darkshaman cleaving, spoils cleave etc).

 

RJW was good for thok and had its uses for garrosh as we move as a group from the desecrated weapons.

 

Xuen is my preferred talent beacuse it does dps and some heals but its also a set and forget CD style talent and has no impact at all on my mana management or positioning.

 

Im sure there are many different arguments for which talent to use and when so this is just my opinoin :)

[Krazyito 521]

IMO you go for the highest haste breakpoint that requires less than maybe 4 gems(just made this up) and you dont drop below 35% ish crit.

 

This.  and thats 35% raid buffed (so about 30% unbuffed)

 

Also, IMO crit > haste(to breakpoint with little haste gems) > spirit > mastery.

 

Even though spirit is useless past 5100, so is mastery, and spirit at least lets you overextend your mana if you screw up a lot or just want to waste mana to push numbers.

[Nicksonc20 0]

Thanks for all the help in explaining this. I just cam back from a break since Terrace and I was still weighing my stats for that. This should definitely help my healing :D

[Khalam 3]

What about spirit without legendary meta gem?

[Krazyito 521]

What about spirit without legendary meta gem?

 

It shouldn't matter too much since the mana tea chug change. As I've said in the :how to ask for help with MW monks" thread just go for the low spirit cap and see how it feels.  If you think you need you need more just go up.  

[Nicksonc20 0]

I just want to thank you guys for all the advice.I changed up my stat weights and how I'm healing. I'm finishing a lot of boss fights with either 80% or more mana.

[AlanGriffin 0]

i am seeing a lot of people saying the 5100  spirit cap...but i read in a guide made and updated by kraz...you said 10 man you hear monks saying 8-10k spirit is this with the legendary meta or not?

[Puritan 0]

I still cant find the edited weights we should be trying to use. I look at Krazymonk and Brewmonksta on robot and they seem to be both default builds, and i look at the 1 posted above which has spell power at 0 and 3145 haste cap?

[Krazyito 521]

https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/2768-how-to-ask-for-help-with-your-mistweaver-monk/

[Puritan 0]

As always thanks for the fast reply Krazy, I really do want to work through this to get it right. Just found some logs of a fight on the 16th which i am fairly sure i haven't changed spec since..

 

 

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-5v3vr0vddv1vi905/details/1396/

[kika 1]

i am seeing a lot of people saying the 5100  spirit cap...but i read in a guide made and updated by kraz...you said 10 man you hear monks saying 8-10k spirit is this with the legendary meta or not?

 

Hi Alan,

 

I'd always raid in 10man and I found out that the best way to learn how to manage your mana properly, is to make a hardswitch to the less spirit possible and learn how to use your spells properly. 

 

That being said, if you find yourself with little to no mana, no matter what you do, putting a 8k spi cap is viable. If you can't manage your mana with 8k spi, I think is more a gameplay/rotation issue than stats. You shouldn't have to go to 10k, that seems a little too much imo.

 

Hope it helped.

[Krazyito 521]

"If you spam enough crit, you will be flowing in mana" 

[AlanGriffin 0]

i know that at 8k you should be fine just wanted to know if i read right is all lol

[Kickflip 0]

Krazyito;  have you by chance redid the stat weight like you were planning?  I hate to bother and ask, but I'm horrible with the numbers, so must rely on those smarter than me lol

[Krazyito 521]

https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/2768-how-to-ask-for-help-with-your-mistweaver-monk/

[Kickflip 0]

Thanks,  guess i missed it lol.

 

Appreciate the help.