Blow Ice Lance Before you Flurry ?

[Magesquad 0]

Hoping to get some opinions here.  If I am not chaining and just fishing for procs:

My Brain Freeze just procced.  BUT I have a FoF proc available.  I am already going to get the benefit of crit etc if I just cast the FoF Ice Lance and then Frost Bolt - Flurry - Ice Lance.

Thoughts ??  Use up all the FoF procs THEN use the BF proc or just use the BF first?

Thanks peeps! 

[Archimage 98]

If you are already casting Frostbolt, you should consume your Brain Freeze regardless of your Fingers of Frost proc. A wasted Brain Freeze proc is worse than a redundant Fingers of Frost proc

If you have a BF and FoF and are on global cooldown cause you just casted Ice Lance, Frozen Orb or Blizzard, you can consume your FoF procs before FB > Flurry > IL.

[Valks 2,375]

17 hours ago, Archimage said:

If you are already casting Frostbolt, you should consume your Brain Freeze regardless of your Fingers of Frost proc. A wasted Brain Freeze proc is worse than a redundant Fingers of Frost proc

If you have a BF and FoF and are on global cooldown cause you just casted Ice Lance, Frozen Orb or Blizzard, you can consume your FoF procs before FB > Flurry > IL.

Exactly this - but one thing to add on the last bit. Ignore that if you know movement is coming in the next few seconds and you have 2+ procs, like if Garothi has you targeted for Decimator or the pools are about to spawn on Vari.

[Magesquad 0]

LOL Well, I tried a couple pulls with holding the BF procs for FoF.  What a DPS loss.. Sheesh. Was embarrassing. 

[Valks 2,375]

14 hours ago, Magesquad said:

LOL Well, I tried a couple pulls with holding the BF procs for FoF.  What a DPS loss.. Sheesh. Was embarrassing. 

Yeah, the fact that they're both procs on very regularly spells tricks people into thinking they have an equal contribution to damage. Reality is, Flurry is about 1.1:1 with IL on base damage alone, not including that IL + FB shatter damage in the BF. Flurry really is the big dog of Frost this expansion.

[singularityx 0]

So im currently leveling and playing as frost mage because i enjoyed it once but it was on different faction and im usually also blowing FoF procs before i FB>BF>IL but im doing it because i have 11s on BF does that change when you get all your artifact traits because you ll probably get more frequent FoFs so you wont be able to blow em all of in time and then do FB into BF?

Edited April 1, 2018 by singularityx
mistake ive made on the spell names

[Valks 2,375]

On 01/04/2018 at 3:07 AM, singularityx said:

So im currently leveling and playing as frost mage because i enjoyed it once but it was on different faction and im usually also blowing FoF procs before i FB>BF>IL but im doing it because i have 11s on BF does that change when you get all your artifact traits because you ll probably get more frequent FoFs so you wont be able to blow em all of in time and then do FB into BF?

It's not so much to do with the time on BF, but more to do with the fact that you want to pump out as many Flurry combos as possible. You want to get back to casting Frostbolt as soon as you can after getting rid of FoF because you will get way more damage from the combo. This depends on a few things and, as we mention above, there are a few decision making processes that will let you know which to use, but to answer your question, no, there is no problem with your proc expiring (except in extreme cases with Frozen Orb and RNG).

[aasr 0]

So what does the optimal frost rotation look like then? If you proc BF and FoF at the same time, do you still expend the BF proc first? Seems like you'd be better off firing the FoF proc, then flurry and IL immediately after?

[Dayhdk 0]

On 3/29/2018 at 12:50 AM, Magesquad said:

Please delete

Edited August 20, 2018 by Dayhdk
Please delete. Irrelevant/off topic