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54 minutes ago, PatrickHenry said:

Exactly.  It wasnt like Xe'ra was passionately pleading with illidan to embrace a lightforged future, he physically chained him, and forced the 'destiny' upon him.

It was a terribly written cutscene with very little consistency that I am loathe to accept as canon. Everyone in that room owed their lives to the Naaru in general, let alone their leader. At no point up until then had we seen Light aligned Naaru acting out of anything except of compassion, sympathy and forgiveness of potential allies and retribution against enemies who'd sworn themselves against the Light and all other creation. The fact she wasted all that time and effort on Illidan's sorry morally flipflopping ass when Tyrande would have made much more sense. 

They could have stuck with Illidan but made their point a lot more eloquently without creating so many gaping plot holes and general disappointment after so many beautifully done - or at least reasonable - cutscenes and subplots this expansion. 

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5 minutes ago, Plergoth said:

At no point up until then had we seen Light aligned Naaru acting out of anything except of compassion,

I dont think previous goodness counts as a 'pass' for physically binding someone, and enforcing our will upon them.  

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18 hours ago, PatrickHenry said:

I dont think previous goodness counts as a 'pass' for physically binding someone, and enforcing our will upon them.  

It was less me attempting to justify the actions and more explaining how little sense this little scene made and out of character it entirely was. Besides, if anyone DOES deserve pinning down and told to sort their shit out, it was Illidan. The guy went through for thousands of years attempting to accumulate the power to eradicate the Legion by any means necessary and personal sacrifice but when it came down to the crunch he's like "not me" and then after murdering a Demi-god, delivers some weird pep talk every Draenai in the room somehow buys and the only one with any expected response to it is the paladin who just risked his life of himself and his wife for the umpteenth time to rescue it. 

Just felt odd and out of place while considering the entire lore, but it's not the first time Blizzard has done a 180 heel turn writing trope for no good discernible reason. 

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4 minutes ago, Plergoth said:

Just felt odd and out of place while considering the entire lore, but it's not the first time Blizzard has done a 180 heel turn writing trope for no good discernible reason. 

Blizzard love to build long stories only to make those out of place plot-twists. They've been doing it since The Lost Vikings (where Emperor Tomator is actually a little kid named "Tommy").

Edited May 24, 2018 by Valhalen

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On 5/22/2018 at 9:19 PM, Starym said:

While I'm the last person to actually defend Blizzard's, ahem, let's call it "uneven" writing and not say "shit" which is what I want to say, the Illidan cutscene actually made sense to me. Although I agree with most of what you're saying that particular moment worked for me as Illidan didn't seem to have a choice in the matter, it was get assimilated by the light-borg aka lose your identity in the next 5 seconds or do something, anything. I don't even think he was trying to kill Xera but just basically trying to survive and not get borgised, basically just lashing out any way he could. And then it was whoops headhsot (not that he cared and he'd be fine with killing Xera anyway). The idiocy of Turalyon and the whole army of the light being ok with the event after 1-2 inspiring sentences by Illidan is beyond words however, as they either should have realized how nazi the naaru actually are and had a bit of a think on their lives so far OR just flat out kicked Illidan out (or just left the ship since it's not really theirs in the first place). Instead it's just business as usual after 5 mins of Xera cleanup detail.

But hey, it's an MMO and honestly thinking too much about the storyine is... unproductive to say the least so it's all good ?

You are missing a point (or a few)

First, yes, Illidan kill that thing that was trying to corruphim.

The light army wasn't OK with that, BUT, once Turalyon accepted that Illidan was right, the rest did it too.

So, the question is, why Turalyon was OK with this... well, it wasn't new to him that that hing wasn't complety good, she may be made of light, but that doesn't mean that she wasn't evil... And then is what happen to alleria. The Naaru lock her bcose she was using the void energy... when she went back to save Turalyon ,and use that power to help them!

So, yes, the "nazi naaru" was somthing Turalyon was seen already, and all went clear when she/it try to "purify" Illidan againts his will

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22 hours ago, Demenzel said:

So, yes, the "nazi naaru" was somthing Turalyon was seen already, and all went clear when she/it try to "purify" Illidan againts his will

I like the Nazi reference, honestly.

The whole 'road to hells pavement' idea at its core.  

They are supposed to see only one path and that it is the truth.  Xe'ra definitely was that way 100%.  And was prepared to do whatever it took to ensure that the goal was met.  

Nazis, Communists, countless others brutal dictators.  Our own history is replete with people doing really bad crap for 'all the right reasons.' 
 

Perfectly believable that other civilizations are not exempt from it.

Edited May 25, 2018 by PatrickHenry