DamRed on Stance, Armor etc... how does it work?

[Szensa 3]

Hi,

 

I'm wondering how all of this works. In what order, how do they 'scale' (additionally or multiplicatively)?

 

So... lets say my Stance has 25% Damage Reduction, and my armor soaks another 30% of the incoming physical damage, and the boss hits for 1m physical.

 

Examples

 

In case of addition (seems very unlikely):

Unmitigated damage: 1.000.000
Armor+Stance=55% reduction, so I take 450.000 damage as physical.

 

Multiplicatively:

Unmitigated damage: 1.000.000
Armor soaks 30%: 1.000.000*0.7=700.000

Stance soaks 25%: 700.000*0.75=525.000 damage as physical.

 

Aand, additional question to Brewmasters: How does Stagger work with all of this? Multiplicative after Armor and Stance, or before them? So, lets say I have 50% Stagger rate from Stance, Shuffle and Mastery.

 

Before mitigation:

Unmitigated damage: 1.000.000
Stagger cuts it in half: 500.000 and 50k DOT,

Mitigation blah blah

 

After mitigation:
Unmitigatad damage: 1.000.000
Additionally/multiplicatively soaked damage: 450.000/525.000
Stagger kicks in: 225.000/262.500 damage as physical and DOTz

 

I hope someone can help me out, I'm really interested in this.

Thanks everyone!

 

Adam

Edited November 26, 2013 by Szensa

[Brewmonksta 157]

Hi Szensa,

 

From what information i can gather stagger comes into effect after damage mitigation.

 

E.G.

1,000,000 damage

500k mitigated by dodge/parry/block

500k hit is then reduced by reductions/mitigation to for arguments sake 300k

Whatever is left is then staggered.

with shuffle and mastery % u then stagger the remaining 300k damage .

 

It gets a bit tricky in how it gets calculated with other cd's (pain supp etc) but ill do my best interpretation.

The damage is applied in stages,

1. Dodge/parry/block etc is applied

2. the remaining damage is then altered by cd %

3. whatever is left at the end is staggered

 

here is a link to the best explanation i could find after 10 second of googling :P

 

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1869253719

 

So i guess you could say its addition of ratings, then multiplication of reductions, then stagger.

 

I have had a few quiet beverages so i apologise  if im rambling and making no sense XD

[Szensa 3]

Hi Szensa,

 

From what information i can gather stagger comes into effect after damage mitigation.

 

E.G.

1,000,000 damage

500k mitigated by dodge/parry/block

500k hit is then reduced by reductions/mitigation to for arguments sake 300k

Whatever is left is then staggered.

with shuffle and mastery % u then stagger the remaining 300k damage .

 

It gets a bit tricky in how it gets calculated with other cd's (pain supp etc) but ill do my best interpretation.

The damage is applied in stages,

1. Dodge/parry/block etc is applied

2. the remaining damage is then altered by cd %

3. whatever is left at the end is staggered

 

here is a link to the best explanation i could find after 10 second of googling

 

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1869253719

 

So i guess you could say its addition of ratings, then multiplication of reductions, then stagger.

 

I have had a few quiet beverages so i apologise  if im rambling and making no sense XD

Thanks!

 

I'll read that thread after lunch and ask if I have any questions... ;D

Edit: Well, thats still only about Avoidance, but not bad. ;D

 

Pls gief booze

Edited November 26, 2013 by Szensa