Immerseus HC vs. Norushen HC

[Horcored 17]

Hey, i've just noticed that these 2 fights are the easiest on HC diff. My question is, whats ppls opinions on which once easier? Given the grp is not undergeared.

[Stoove 347]

Somewhat depends on what you mean by "undergeared".

 

Immersius is not difficult in terms of numbers, it just takes patience and some luck on your first few kills. The tactics do change a bit, so you have to read up on them.

 

Norushen is a completely different beast. While the tactics can be the same as Normal, the fight is somewhat more punishing than Immersius. It's not hard to learn, but it requires a much higher level of execution. If you're 2-healing it, your healers will need to bring their A*-game.

[ragebarr 153]

(10m PoV)

Immerseus is more of a mechanics check, the DPS check being rather lax. However, if people get too many stacks of the DoT, they'll die. If they git hit by the Breath and don't have a CD, they'll die, etc.

 

Norushen, on the other hand, has 0 mechanics change from normal. However, the gear check is much more tighter. If you 2 heal it, as Stoove said, you're going to need awesome healers. If you 3 heal it, the DPS check becomes pretty hard.

 

In short, Immerseus is a check on dealing with new mechanics, even though they're pretty easy. Norushen is simply a big DPS or healing check.

[Horcored 17]

Hmm..... i am just asking your opinion, cuz my grp managed to down Norushen 10hc yesterday on our normal run, while we did not attemt a hc try on immerseus and i wanna know if ppl think its harder or easier.

 

Ur statements of needing awesome healer i am not so sure about, cuz we 2healed it, with a shammy around 545 ilvl and a resto druid(me) 534 ilvl.

 

But what you mean is that if we got the gear for norushen hc, we can deff do immerseus hc if we just execute tacts correctly?

 

Thanks in advance

[Lestaris 2]

We've really only had 1 good night of attempts on heroics so far, but personally our group found Norushen to be a fair bit easier than Immerseus.

 

As others have said, Immerseus requires considerably more effort mechanics wise, while Norushen is just either a difficult healing or DPS check, depending on whether you use 2, or 3 healers, respectively.

[Stoove 347]

Ur statements of needing awesome healer i am not so sure about, cuz we 2healed it, with a shammy around 545 ilvl and a resto druid(me) 534 ilvl.

 

Well it's a matter of execution when you're 2-healing it, rather than any particular clutch moments. Consistency over burst. Your healers need to be clever and a good team, rather than actually inspired. Our main problem was getting the DPS not to do a stupid.

 

Actually, we had more trouble on Norushen - we picked up Immersius pretty fast in comparison.

 

If you 2 heal it, as Stoove said, you're going to need awesome healers.

 

I would have ranked on our first kill if only they'd bloody logged it.   o_o*

[Horcored 17]

Heh, well, as of dps, we killed it like 2-3sec before berserk =D We'll prob do Immerseus HC next week, i hope atlast =D

[ragebarr 153]

It's a very punishing and unforgiving fight.

 

I'll have to disagree with this statement. Immerseus is actually really forgiving compared to the other heroics. I'd even say that Norushen is easier but less forgiving. 

For example, stacks of the debuff can be dispelled if someone lets them go too high, puddles take a good 5-6 ticks to kill you, letting a lot of adds or even swirls hit you is more than fine if you have a mild defensive cooldown going, etc. Yes, these things can still wipe you if people are not careful enough, I'll admit. However, even if people do fail there is a lot of way to recover from your mistakes, as opposed to, for example, Malkorok Heroic, where not soaking 1 single pool can easily mean a wipe. Immerseus' DPS and healing requirement is low enough that even if 1 or 2 people are dead due to failing at mechanics or other stuff, the boss is still very killable before is enrage.