Padagons

[Zagam 1,982]

Hey guys, did Paragons last week, looking for a DPS critique.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

http://worldoflogs.com/reports/an0rn761ovnu5j99/sum/damageDone/?s=319&e=784

[Typecast 16]

  On 12/19/2013 at 12:16 AM, Zagam said:

Hey guys, did Paragons last week, looking for a DPS critique.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

http://worldoflogs.com/reports/an0rn761ovnu5j99/sum/damageDone/?s=319&e=784

 

More immolate. More Rain of fire. Pad harder pls. Write blizzard a note to stop mechanics like mutate from targetting you.

Edited December 19, 2013 by Typecast

[Omaric 246]

Needs more F&B Incinerate spam and less Chaos Bolt misses.  Otherwise, I give it a solid B+.  :D

 

I was about to change the thread title until I got the joke.

[Zagam 1,982]

Don't you change my titles on me.

[Omaric 246]

  On 12/19/2013 at 12:36 AM, Zagam said:

Don't you change my titles on me.

 

Rofl, didn't even see your name to be honest.  I'm a positive ninja mod who occasionally corrects spelling for others without their consent.  Does that make me a bad person?

 

The more important thing is...... Chaos Bolt misses.

[Lockybalboa 618]

  On 12/19/2013 at 12:16 AM, Zagam said:

Hey guys, did Paragons last week, looking for a DPS critique.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

http://worldoflogs.com/reports/an0rn761ovnu5j99/sum/damageDone/?s=319&e=784

 

Less padding, more progression.

 

Also, you got beat on DPS? Baddie.

[Zagam 1,982]

He just got luckier crits. 

[Zagam 1,982]

Not sure when Chaos Bolt missed.  Some mechanic causes it. 

[JvChequer 43]

  On 12/19/2013 at 1:01 AM, Zagam said:

Not sure when Chaos Bolt missed.  Some mechanic causes it. 

 

Your Chaos Bolt feared the boss and missed.

[Liquidsteel 279]

Lol how many parasites did you actually spawn?

 

I remember a couple months ago having one round get through which was pretty hilarious as Demonology. People trying to CC them but not knowing I'd dropped a 1min30 Doom on each of them :p

[Zagam 1,982]

Padding on this fight as Demo would be interesting.  We had just enough AoE to not kill them, but towards the end of the fight, they started actually dying.  I think we had as many as thirty up.  I know my game slowed down considerably from the number of Incinerates I was firing out.  Doom on all those parasites for 2-3 minutes would be hysterical.  Might legit crash the server with the number of Imps.

[raz27 0]

Corectly , if i am wrong , you got beat by a warlock who reforge for haste instead of crit and gem expertize , and you say he have biggers crits ? :)

[Lockybalboa 618]

  On 12/21/2013 at 7:16 AM, raz27 said:

Corectly , if i am wrong , you got beat by a warlock who reforge for haste instead of crit and gem expertize , and you say he have biggers crits ?

 

 

RNG is still RNG.

 

http://raidbots.com/epeenbot/us/mal'ganis/solyna/ Vs. http://raidbots.com/epeenbot/us/mal'ganis/zagam/

 

Over all, the exp gemming, haste reforging warlock gets beat on nearly every fight nearly every week.

 

Also, http://raidbots.com/comparebot/52b5bae574254e4570000718#damage

 

If you inspect the logs of the Padagons fight, Zag spent 40 seconds as a Scorpion and the other warlock did not. So Zag was taken out of the fight and unable to DPS for 40 seconds and was only beat by ~5mil damage.

 

40 seconds. 

 

I rest my case.

[Liquidsteel 279]

Haste is better than crit in a full on FnB lulfest though.

 

By this I mean that once you have enough targets to sustain aoe for a prolonged period of time, haste is better.

Edited December 21, 2013 by Liquidsteel

[raz27 0]

  On 12/21/2013 at 4:07 PM, Lockybalboa said:

 

Over all, the exp gemming, haste reforging warlock gets beat on nearly every fight nearly every week.

 

 

Any source for that?

 

  On 12/21/2013 at 4:07 PM, Lockybalboa said:

 

If you inspect the logs of the Padagons fight, Zag spent 40 seconds as a Scorpion and the other warlock did not. So Zag was taken out of the fight and unable to DPS for 40 seconds and was only beat by ~5mil damage.

 

40 seconds. 

 

I rest my case.

 

You still can do some dps when you are a Scorpion ? 

 

 

 

Anyway , im just teasing ,   Paragons is one the most inappropriate fight to measure dps 

but some advices like more rain of fire for embers and more havoc + incinerate for embers aswell 

[Lockybalboa 618]

  On 12/21/2013 at 6:32 PM, raz27 said:

Any source for that?

 

 

...yes...it's the raidbots that I linked....

 

 

 

  On 12/21/2013 at 6:32 PM, raz27 said:

You still can do some dps when you are a Scorpion ? 

 

 

9 mil DPS was done by the Scorp skills, so 9 mil in 40 seconds is 225,000 DPS. Even on a non-padding fight this is at least 200k less DPS then would be done, in a fight where you're AoE padding it's more like 500k less.

 

 

  On 12/21/2013 at 6:32 PM, raz27 said:

Paragons is one the most inappropriate fight to measure dps 

 

Yes it is, more over this was a cheesed log. The over arching point of my week is that secondary stats mean very little in the long run. RNG is RNG is RNG.

[Omaric 246]

  On 12/21/2013 at 5:54 PM, Liquidsteel said:

Haste is better than crit in a full on FnB lulfest though.

 

By this I mean that once you have enough targets to sustain aoe for a prolonged period of time, haste is better.

 

Don't know if I agree with that.  The only fights where this is a thing would be Galakras and P1 Garrosh.  Before I died 6 minutes in on Galakras due to a lagging tank I was sitting at 700k DPS running a very low haste build.

[Liquidsteel 279]

  On 12/21/2013 at 7:02 PM, Omaric said:

Don't know if I agree with that.  The only fights where this is a thing would be Galakras and P1 Garrosh.  Before I died 6 minutes in on Galakras due to a lagging tank I was sitting at 700k DPS running a very low haste build.

I'm talking about the specific situation of having 30 adds up and just doing aoe for like 7 minutes :p

[Omaric 246]

Rofl.  I guess I can't comment on that then.  :)