Druid PvP 1.12 (Classic)

[Valks 2,375]

This thread is for feedback concerning our Druid PvP guide for World of Warcraft: Classic.

[Guest Slumberlust]

This guide leaves out one of the most versatile pvp specs for druid: 1/29/21 build that gives you access to 4/5 HotW, Natures Grasp, AND Nature's Swiftness.

 

https://classic.wowhead.com/talent-calc/druid/01-503202130321214-05550311001

[Impakt 25]

On 9/26/2019 at 7:31 PM, Guest Slumberlust said:

This guide leaves out one of the most versatile pvp specs for druid: 1/29/21 build that gives you access to 4/5 HotW, Natures Grasp, AND Nature's Swiftness.

 

https://classic.wowhead.com/talent-calc/druid/01-503202130321214-05550311001

Nice build! I don't know that I would add it in as its own seperate build, but I'll definitely make a note on the HotW build that I already have to potentially swap out the point for NG if you want to. Thanks!

[Guest Antique]

Couple quick typo fixes:

1 Ancient Cornerstone Grimoire is an Off-Hand, not a trinket. 
2 Don Rodrigo’s band is listed as a BiS ring but it’s not even usable by Druids, look at the class restrictions. 
 

Thanks!

[kiwadawg 0]

So many things that is wrong for pvp in this guide, like why is kiss of the spider, and dft under the trinket list? never will you ever get any benefit out of that in pvp, pvp trinket, reflectors, net etc 
Iknow your engi trinkets are further down in the guide, but its just gonna be confusing to people that is trying to get pvp gear, not anytime would you open on someone in duel/wpvp with dft/kiss they are pve trinkets

also if you follow all your topgear on your list, you are even far over hitcap where you could rather take stam/agi items over the hit% 

you have a ring with 0 stam as "bis" for pvp, and ring of the godslayer is not even on the list? 

feels like this is just a pve list reposted with a few twists

Edited September 23, 2023 by kiwadawg

[Rootz 1]

On 9/23/2023 at 11:15 AM, kiwadawg said:

So many things that is wrong for pvp in this guide, like why is kiss of the spider, and dft under the trinket list? never will you ever get any benefit out of that in pvp, pvp trinket, reflectors, net etc 
Iknow your engi trinkets are further down in the guide, but its just gonna be confusing to people that is trying to get pvp gear, not anytime would you open on someone in duel/wpvp with dft/kiss they are pve trinkets

also if you follow all your topgear on your list, you are even far over hitcap where you could rather take stam/agi items over the hit% 

you have a ring with 0 stam as "bis" for pvp, and ring of the godslayer is not even on the list? 

feels like this is just a pve list reposted with a few twists

Hey, thank you for your feed back. I have forwarded it to the writer.

[Impakt 25]

On 9/23/2023 at 5:15 AM, kiwadawg said:

So many things that is wrong for pvp in this guide, like why is kiss of the spider, and dft under the trinket list? never will you ever get any benefit out of that in pvp, pvp trinket, reflectors, net etc 
Iknow your engi trinkets are further down in the guide, but its just gonna be confusing to people that is trying to get pvp gear, not anytime would you open on someone in duel/wpvp with dft/kiss they are pve trinkets

also if you follow all your topgear on your list, you are even far over hitcap where you could rather take stam/agi items over the hit% 

you have a ring with 0 stam as "bis" for pvp, and ring of the godslayer is not even on the list? 

feels like this is just a pve list reposted with a few twists

Thanks for the feedback! I think it's important to address a couple of key points first. PvP BiS lists are much more nuanced and situational than PvE lists, and ultimately you're able to gear however you want on your character. That could mean going for maximum damage or stacking stamina for better survivability. It also is incredibly important to frame this in terms of the context of what PvP content you're trying to accomplish. In the era of HC WoW, PvP is obviously not nearly as big of an activity so a "PvP guide" should be focused on preparing for Mak'Goras? But even then it's a niche activity where the situation changes based on match-up. This guide was originally created with BGs in mind, so damage was of a higher concern.

It's also a highly emphasized point to have several trinkets ready for PvP, absolutely including the engineering trinkets like you said. We can reevaluate if our engineering section needs more clarity to drive that point home. Ultimately, any good set of trinkets will start with 2 PvE trinkets and then have a full set of utility + engineering trinkets to swap between depending on what you want to do.

I will review the BiS list though to see about potential updates since it has been awhile since this was created/updated during original classic. It's certainly possible there are optimizations to be made, especially surrounding the hit cap and getting more stamina or agility. Thanks again for the suggestions!