DLXX 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2014 just rerolled mage, after my protpally gettin boring as fuck :D my amr link: http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/eu/blackrock/helenefisher armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/blackrock/Helenefisher/simple would rly appreciate some tips for reforging or getting other caps!? also got 561 bboy and lfr fcor thanks a lot yours DLXX PS: thx 4 your help so far guys, trinketproccs, rotation etc, rly helped me ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anderson 7 Report post Posted March 19, 2014 Read Akraen's Frost Mage Guide Choose a built Copy & Paste AMR Values from Guide into AMR Click Optimize Button Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Narsha 12 Report post Posted March 19, 2014 What Anderson said! ^^ If you have more questions after reading it you can ask in the thread and someone will get to it for sure, only thing I'll mention here is that the cleave-trinket is pretty terrible! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DLXX 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2014 what does breakpoints mean ? i ll keep my bboy i guess. ktt is terrible i guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DLXX 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2014 how many haste should i forge now 14242 is max? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DLXX 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) how many haste should i forge now 14242 is max? what does lb +7 & nt+20 @ 18960 mean, that are my big Qs i know its living bomb and nether tempest, but what does those numbers mean ?`_< Edited March 19, 2014 by DLXX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drumsmani 47 Report post Posted March 19, 2014 It means number of (additional) ticks of those bombs. Currently there are specific haste breakpoints at which your bombs get an additional DoT tick. Since you are new to the class and don't seem too familiar with breakpoints (and hence snapshotting), I would think KTT would be better than BBoY at the moment for you. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DLXX 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) yeah but what do u think about my haste now ? i got bout 35,89% => 15254 haste with KTT/pboi geared (NO FROSTARMOR) with armor up 45,40% and BBOY/pbot + ARMOR pushes me upto 50.72 % => 17365 my Q now is, should i forge more mastery? am i wrong or am i 3k haste abouve GCD breakpoint, without 5% raidhastebuff? i srsly wanna get involved into that materia yours DLXX Edited March 19, 2014 by DLXX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cynthaea 12 Report post Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) Dear DLXX, If you are new to playing to a frost mage now, my advice will be to stick to the mixture build. It gives you decent bomb damage and good icicle damage with stacked mastery as well. So, if you stick to the 14242 haste build, it will be much simpler. The haste that you have is excess of 14242 and it will help you if that haste were instead changed(gemmed/reforged) to mastery. The guide assumes you have 5% spell haste buff in raid. There are also stat weights in Akraen's guide that you can enter into AMR which will solve your reforge/gem problems. And in your Leggings of Furious Flame(they are yellow sockets) gem pure haste or pure mastery depending on if you reach 14242 haste rating. Your gear has a little excess hit, so AMR does ask to gem pure mastery there instead. Edited March 19, 2014 by Cynthaea 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akraen 230 Report post Posted March 19, 2014 That's not how haste buffs work. No %-based haste buff modifies your rating. Basically your rating determines your % haste first in the order of operations. PBoI's amplification is different, it's a % but it's modified off your rating and it's added next, 6-9% of your rating. Then 7% frost armor is added and multiplied. (x% * 107%) + 7% (i.e. .50 * 1.07 + .07 = 60.5%) Then 5% raid buff is added and multiplied, same way as above. Then burst haste, i.e. meta gem, icy veins, time warp are added, with the same method. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kver 65 Report post Posted March 19, 2014 That's not how haste buffs work. No %-based haste buff modifies your rating. Basically your rating determines your % haste first in the order of operations. PBoI's amplification is different, it's a % but it's modified off your rating and it's added next, 6-9% of your rating. Then 7% frost armor is added and multiplied. (x% * 107%) + 7% (i.e. .50 * 1.07 + .07 = 60.5%) Then 5% raid buff is added and multiplied, same way as above. Then burst haste, i.e. meta gem, icy veins, time warp are added, with the same method. Yep. Haste scales multiplicatively, which is why berserking is so insane for frost mages(Test it if you have it, maaassive haste). It is also why frost armour is so good. The PBoI's amp just alters the "base" rating used to determine the initial percentage. I'd read this page too for further info: http://lhiveras-library.com/compendium/haste Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Methusula 17 Report post Posted March 19, 2014 And in your Leggings of Furious Flame(they are yellow sockets) gem pure haste or pure mastery depending on if you reach 14242 haste rating. Your gear has a little excess hit. There are 2 blue sockets in http://www.wowhead.com/item=105516 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cynthaea 12 Report post Posted March 19, 2014 Oops! I am sorry I was wrong there. I got confused with my armory(when I was logged into my AMR) >.< My pants have Yellow ones. I should seriously refrain from posting here when I am tired. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DLXX 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) 2fof + bf > metaprocc and pboi&Ktt procC? do i need to refresh my LB when its below 6 sec and my meta, trink etc procs? Edited April 2, 2014 by DLXX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites