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4 hours ago, UeberwachtZwei said:

Another disaster like BfA mustn't happen at this point, especially with Warcraft III bombing and Overwatch 2 being pushed back, as well.  

The issue is not that Blizzard is delaying Shadowlands, it is the lack of communication over the last weeks and months. No hints on the pre-patch date was a clear sign of inner turmoil. Ion's  lie about the ripcord (there never has been one) was audacious. Stripping down features (e.g. the Maw content, Thorgast levels) is a warning sign that there has been a mismanagement, and pouring resources in borrowed power systems instead of content lies at the core of Blizzards troubles with delivering its fabled quality and polish.

Based on what we've seen with BfA beta, I think it's certain that feedback about those power systems isn't going to do much, if anything. It appears this is their current approach, once they are set on a certain system, they are going to implement it anyway. We may see it expanded, with some band-aids, similar to Azerite essences and that's all. At least we can hope they will fix a few critical bugs meanwhile.

Warcraft III Reforged being met with poor reception doesn't matter, I'm afraid. It was a "niche" project and it barely had any marketing, pretty sure most people forgot about it. There have been some patches since release, but they aren't receiving any widespread attention. Also, it was review-bombed, many of those people probably never even played the game or had any interest in it. Anyway, it's disastrous launch likely didn't change much, in how they are approaching their other games. Although their lack of news for Overwatch 2 is concerning, especially with their e-sport still being around, it should have been advertised from time to time. Otherwise I'm not sure how they want to get people's attention. 

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4 minutes ago, Arcling said:

Based on what we've seen with BfA beta, I think it's certain that feedback about those power systems isn't going to do much, if anything. It appears this their current approach, once they are set on a certain system, they are going to implement it. We may see it expanded, with some band-aids, similar to Azerite essences. 

 

The thing i dont understand is from the start on people and the mighty youtube content creators in all there wisdom are saying the dont want borrowed power and that its so bat since legion but what is the alternative?

instead of borrowed power you could get one or two new abilitys evere xpac and they are part of your class and are staying with you in the next one then sooner or later the need to cut youre skills down cause you have to many and then one half of the playerbase is gone cry cause there favorite got cut and that blizz is stupid cause this or that skills deserves to be cut of.

i hope you understand what i mean. i think borrowed power is a nice way to give us new skills every xpac without the need of reworking every class entirely and when they see that somthing workt out good and players love a certain skill they can weave it in the class with the next xpac  

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7 minutes ago, N3ilo said:

i hope you understand what i mean. i think borrowed power is a nice way to give us new skills every xpac without the need of reworking every class entirely and when they see that somthing workt out good and players love a certain skill they can weave it in the class with the next xpac  

It certainly makes things harder to balance, especially with how many combinations Covenants introduce. Those borrowed skills still need to work alongside class abilities. Once they are gone in next expansion, they need to rework classes. For example, Legion relied heavily on artifact powers. They removed them for BfA and certain classes/builds felt pretty boring or even weaker (and they also recycled some into talents).

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4 minutes ago, Arcling said:

They removed them for BfA and certain classes/builds felt pretty boring or even weaker (and they also recycled some into talents).

this is totaly true u are right borrowed power isnt a perfect thing and when the power is gone they need to work on the classes or replace one borrowed power with another but i would not say they recycled them into talents that is what i meant with weaving in skills that workt good or are loved by the players

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